[00:00:00] Dr. Katie Deming: ~ ~what if the scariest diagnosis could become your greatest opportunity for transformation?

[00:00:06] Dr. Katie Deming: Today, I sit down with Christie Miller, a mindset coach who turned her stage four cancer diagnosis into a powerful healing journey. After successfully treating breast cancer that had spread to the brain through natural approaches, Christie now coaches others on creating a healing mindset. She shares the five essential permissions we must grant ourselves to heal and explains why peace within is a prerequisite for any healing journey.

[00:00:33] Dr. Katie Deming: You'll learn practical ways to move through fear while still honoring your emotions. Plus discover how unconditional love can accelerate healing and unexpected ways. Stay until the end to hear Christie's simple daily practices that helped her transform from a scarcity mindset to embodying joy and possibility.

[00:00:54] Dr. Katie Deming: Let's dive in.
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Hello, everyone. I'm Dr. Katie Deming, and this is the Born to Heal podcast, where we explore holistic practices for cancer prevention and healing. Let's welcome Christie Miller, the Conscious Change Mentor. So Christie, you and I know each other quite well because we've worked together for a while, but you know, I've heard you say something that really That is so deep that I almost think you can miss what you're saying in there.

[00:01:33] Dr. Katie Deming: But what you've said is the person who comes out healed must be a completely different person than the person who started out needing healing. Tell us. What does that mean?

[00:01:47] Christie Miller: Yeah, first off, it's so true and I see it in myself. If I rewind back to June of 2022, when I was, when I received a [00:02:00] diagnosis, that person that I was is not the person that is sitting here recording this podcast today. I have grown in so many ways. And our healing cannot exceed our personal development and our growth, which makes perfect sense within the law of nature because cancer is a gift that is, was given for me, not to me.

[00:02:29] Christie Miller: Cancer didn't happen to me. Cancer was given for me. It was given to me in order for me to grow, in order for me to learn, in order for me to change things that weren't serving me. And what I see with people who are healing is they have huge mindset shifts that enable them to make the changes consistently that allow the healing to come in.

[00:02:53] Christie Miller: And it's such a beautiful transformation.

[00:02:56] Dr. Katie Deming: I love that. And, and I can, so for the [00:03:00] audience and Christie and I have done an episode before, Christie and I have worked together for now over a year, initially when she had what she called the brain guest, which was, uh, she had a history of a breast guest and then the brain guest. So if you can put this story together, you know, what's going on.

[00:03:18] Dr. Katie Deming: And she was able to make. The brain gas go away completely through the work that we've done together. And so I've seen, I've had a front row seat of the change and the shifts that you have. I don't want to say experience because it's really a choice that you have chosen to. Make in your life to become this different person who has healed the, you know, all the things.

[00:03:51] Dr. Katie Deming: And so I wanna say number one, that for those who are listening here, that Kristi Miller is someone who [00:04:00] knows what she's talking about with this, because she's walked the walk, she's done this herself, and she has. Shifted in so many ways. And then now is doing mindset coaching for people, you know, all kinds of mindset coaching, but also helping people who are healing cancer specifically, and using their mindset in all of this.

[00:04:23] Dr. Katie Deming: And so it's truly my privilege to have walked next to you and to have you in my life and to call you a friend. And I love this. This is what I talk about with people is that cancer is a huge opportunity. So people know that cancer or, you know, correct cancer is a crisis and crisis is, uh, in Chinese is two symbols.

[00:04:47] Dr. Katie Deming: The first word or symbol, um, is. Danger. And then the second symbol is opportunity. So cancer is a crisis and Christ in every crisis. Yes, there's danger, but [00:05:00] there's also this opportunity. And you are such an example of someone who has taken that opportunity and just cracked it open and created not only something incredible in your body, but also in all areas of your life.

[00:05:17] Dr. Katie Deming: And so I just, it's a privilege to have you here to share your wisdom and to teach my audience, the things that you know, and that you live firsthand. So thank you for being here.

[00:05:29] Christie Miller: Thank you. I mean, it's definitely a privilege to be in each other's worlds. And, uh, to have you as a friend and a mentor. And it's just been such a beautiful dance and a beautiful journey of learning from each other. Even though you're technically guiding me, I think there's been so much give and take.

[00:05:51] Christie Miller: And I really wish that you could have seen or known the Christie before breast cancer diagnosis, because you would not [00:06:00] even recognize this person right now. It's, it's been that much of a transformation emotionally, spiritually, physically, all of it. And I love what you just said about crisis because yeah, I mean, cancer is scary AF.

[00:06:18] Christie Miller: I will never say that it's not scary, but it does come with such an opportunity to crack open to grow and transform. But the thing is, is we can't do that if we're sitting in the fear. We cannot heal. We cannot change sitting in the fear. Fear and doubt is going to bring in more disease.

[00:06:42] Dr. Katie Deming: Absolutely. That is the dis ease, you know, the fear a hundred percent is the number one thing to conquer in this experience of healing. And I, and I, and I, I just, that is one piece every day. I mean, honestly, [00:07:00] I think that's my main role is helping people manage and release the fear so that they can get to a place of healing because healing happens when we are at peace within ourselves.

[00:07:13] Dr. Katie Deming: Like that is the for healing. Like that's the first thing that needs to happen. And I think it's, Most people feel like, well, it's just normal and this is just where I am and I have to live in this. And so I, let's start there. Like, how, how do you think about fear? How do you manage fear?

[00:07:34] Christie Miller: First off, fear is a choice. Every one of our emotions, our beliefs are choices. And I love what you said about peace because only with peace can we move forward with certainty and conviction and the knowing that we are healed. But what happens is so many people with a diagnosis of [00:08:00] cancer, they stay in the lack.

[00:08:02] Christie Miller: The desiring to be healed, the wanting to be healed, and that puts them in this place where fear can come in because they're living in a situation of, I am not healed and what needs to happen through the mindset work and spiritual work is to get to a place. Of not only believing you can be healed, but knowing you are healed and acting as if you are already healed.

[00:08:31] Christie Miller: And that is how I have been living the last, however many months this has now been, uh, over two years. That's how I've been living. As if I am healed and I have had so much joy in the last two and a half years because I'm, I'm, I'm walking around with childlike curiosity with wonder. And that doesn't mean there aren't times when I cry, we have to give ourselves permission to cry, but [00:09:00] it's, it's all about choosing to believe and then know that you are healed.

[00:09:06] Christie Miller: And that's where the magic happens. And it it's, it's a daily practice. I don't know if you can

[00:09:11] Dr. Katie Deming: Yeah. Well, I, I, I follow your Instagram and if you don't follow Christie, you need to follow her. So her handles will be in the links below, but you were going into. see the neurosurgeon and have your MRI to follow up on. Um, that, you know, basically the pre metastasis that you had gotten to go away, um, over a year ago, I guess, or I guess now about a year ago.

[00:09:36] Dr. Katie Deming: And you were going in there and you were like, I'm bored, but not boring. And it was just like you were in Mark. We're having so much fun and like skipping into the MRI and like jumping in there and the texts were laughing so hard. And I was like. She's having fun, like when most people, when they would be going in to go see the neurosurgeon to have their [00:10:00] scans, they would have, you know, what we call scans, it, they'd be nervous and worried.

[00:10:05] Dr. Katie Deming: And here you are just like, you know, cutting it up with them having the best time. Like, how do, how do you get there? Like how, is that just who you are or is, like, I, I, I, I watch you and I'm like in awe of the way you go into these visits and I love just like watching you skip out and so tell us about this.

[00:10:26] Christie Miller: Sure. So again, scansiety is a choice. And I remember a couple scans ago, uh, my neurosurgeon when, when we were getting the results. So I do the scan and within an hour, I'm in his office. getting the results immediately. And, uh, he had said something like, I know how nerve wracking this can be. I'm sure the last couple of days were just stress filled and all that.

[00:10:53] Christie Miller: And I said, no, not at all. I've been celebrating these great results. And this is before he even gave me the results. And he just looked at me. He's [00:11:00] like, What? And I said, you know, skin anxiety really is a choice. If you think about it, every belief we have is made up. So would we rather choose to be anxious and nervous and live on the dark side?

[00:11:17] Christie Miller: Or choose to begin celebrating the incredible results in advance. And that's what I choose. And in fact, with this last one, the MRI machine was delayed. I think it ended up being like almost two hours. So Mark and I filmed our celebratory skip. Video that was going to be posted after we got the news we we filmed it before I even went into the MRI Machine and it was just time traveling and already being in that space and then during the MRI I had the most beautiful experience to the point where when the 30 minutes were up and the tech was [00:12:00] saying, okay, I'm going to come in and pull you out.

[00:12:02] Christie Miller: I was actually disappointed because I was doing so many visualizations and affirmations and meditations to the tunes of the MRI machine that I was, I was really enjoying myself. And again, that is a choice. And it's, it's one that I have had to train myself how to make, because I didn't grow up in a Disneyland family where everything is, you know, rainbows and unicorns.

[00:12:32] Christie Miller: I grew up with a family that had a lack mentality, a scarcity mentality. We weren't skipping and whistling. Zippity doo dah. And so this is something that I have developed for myself over the years by choosing how do I want to live? How do we want to show up here on earth school and enjoy this precious lifetime that I have right now?

[00:12:54] Christie Miller: And again, it's a choice and it requires daily work and the [00:13:00] rewards are so great. The payoffs are infinite. And so that's why I keep doing it.

[00:13:06] Dr. Katie Deming: Yeah. Well, and life is a choice. Like life is choice. Life, what you make of your life is the choices that you make in every moment. And I think. For a lot of people listening, this might be, like, really radical to say, Scanziety is a choice, fear about cancer is a choice, because a lot of people are really challenged by it and really get caught in it.

[00:13:36] Dr. Katie Deming: And I think that the one thing that I see is that people And maybe this will be actually something that you can speak to. So one of the things that I see is that people, they, they want to believe. And so they say those things and then, but then they have the fear that it's really not happening. So, and this comes back to [00:14:00] something you said earlier in this interview is that.

[00:14:03] Dr. Katie Deming: You can't just make a belief and say, this is going to happen. You have to actually know in your being that this has already happened. And so talk us through that. Like, how, how do you get to that point of being like truly afraid? Like I, it, it makes sense why people are afraid. How do you really get to that place of knowing in your being?

[00:14:31] Christie Miller: Sure. So there's quite a few steps. So the first step is getting to the belief that the healing is possible. So back when I had the breast guest and doctors told me I'd be dead in a year, that would have been June of 23, um, because I was refusing chemo and radiation, I had to get to the belief that I could heal the HER2 positive, very aggressive breast cancer without the chemo and radiation.[00:15:00]

[00:15:00] Christie Miller: And this was a choice for me. I'm not saying that's the right choice for everyone, but this was the choice that my intuition, my divine guidance was telling me in the middle of the night, three nights in a row, waking me up in a dream that that wasn't the choice I was supposed to be making. So the first thing I did is I just did a ton of research.

[00:15:17] Christie Miller: I only needed to find one person that survived HER2 positive without doing chemo and radiation. And I found a very small study in Japan that basically said, There was almost no difference in this test group in survival rates between people that had the chemo and radiation and women that didn't. So I'm like, okay, it's not going to make a difference.

[00:15:39] Christie Miller: So I'm good. And then it was me just programming my mind and thinking about the future. And seeing myself healed and creating affirmations. One of my favorite ones that I still use to this day is I am healed. I am whole. I'm as strong as can be. [00:16:00] Miracles always happen for me. And I just keep repeating it and repeating it.

[00:16:05] Christie Miller: And even to the extent of creating, uh, a vision board, uh, which can be in any form, I took a photo, uh, one of my favorite photos of Mark and I, and I put it in a horrible app and I aged it to the point where we're 90, maybe in our hundreds. We definitely, you've seen it. We definitely need plastic surgery budget.

[00:16:25] Christie Miller: I mean, we look horrible, but guess what? We're alive and you can still see the sparkle in our eyes and we have cute clothing on even at that age. And so that's part of getting from the place of lack. which is the desire and the wanting into the belief by seeing what's possible, living in that world of possibilities and then doing all of the affirmations, the visualizations to really put it into your brain that you are healed.

[00:16:55] Christie Miller: And our brain can't tell the difference when we're programming it [00:17:00] between what is, True. And what is, um, what we're programming for, what we want it to be. And so the brain will act like a GPS to find all the opportunities and all the truths and all the avenues to get us to that place that we are imagining.

[00:17:15] Christie Miller: And healing truly comes from within. Every body was divinely created to have the power of healing. We just have to get out of our own way and allow it to happen.

[00:17:28] Dr. Katie Deming: It's beautiful. And I love how you. Lay that out where it's one of the first things that you can do is look for evidence and that's why I think it's so powerful like radical remission work, the, you know, sharing of these stories of people who are healing because there is evidence people are definitely healing cancer naturally and having that evidence Is like the very first step of creating that possibility [00:18:00] of belief in that possibility.

[00:18:02] Dr. Katie Deming: And then I love how then you outline, okay, then it's about putting it into your brain. And specifically your subconscious brain is that part of our mind that it. It believes what it's told. So if we can impress it through repetition through, there's a lot of different ways that you can impress into the subconscious mind, affirmations, vision board, like you said, you can use techniques like hypnosis that once you impress that your mind doesn't know the difference between fantasy and reality and why not program it.

[00:18:36] Dr. Katie Deming: And this is like, I mean, most of my practice is frankly, teaching people how to program themselves to believe that healing is possible. So thank you for outlining those steps because I think that gives people concrete ways to start, you know, and I think the other thing is like, You know, you're not going to be skipping out of your MRI maybe [00:19:00] the next time, but you can incrementally make those little shifts.

[00:19:04] Dr. Katie Deming: Like it, you didn't go from the Christie that was before all this, that, you know, was in lack and had grown up in a family where that was the story. To this person today who, you know, people would look at and just be like, is like, wow, she is so beyond like positive and, and, you know, just living in the, the rainbows and unicorns.

[00:19:26] Dr. Katie Deming: And by the way, she has a life size unicorn in her living room, I think. So, um, she really is living this life. You, you don't have to, you shouldn't, that didn't happen overnight. That, that took a process. It was, you know, it's been years, you know, that you've been going through this and, but taking those little steps to make the shifts is where you start, you start where you are, and that's how you make progress to really believing and embodying that, knowing that healing is your birthright.

[00:19:56] Dr. Katie Deming: It's your divine, right?

[00:19:57] Christie Miller: It absolutely is. And I, I'd like to [00:20:00] even touch again a little bit on the fear because in order to release the fear, we have to really go deep and sit in the silence and ask ourself a question, which is how is fear serving me? And the initial reaction might be, it's not. But the thing is, we only hold onto beliefs.

[00:20:20] Christie Miller: We only hold onto actions if there is a reward for it. So I always start with my clients when they come to me and they are in fear. And let me just say, I didn't skip out of my first PET scan. When I was getting the diagnosis, I didn't skip out of the news of, Oh, you have cancer. No, I walked out in fear.

[00:20:41] Christie Miller: Like I, I had the complete meltdown because cancer is scary. And then it was, okay, let's make these shifts. But it's really important to identify how the fear is serving the person because we cannot heal if we're constantly fluctuating between [00:21:00] fear. And certainty, fear, and belief, fear, and knowledge. And the only way to release the fear is to figure out how it's serving us and identify a different way to get that need met.

[00:21:14] Dr. Katie Deming: So give us an example. How was fear serving you when you were first diagnosed?

[00:21:19] Christie Miller: Yeah. So in the beginning, it was allowing Mark and I to have just that deep connection, uh, cause he had cancer. He had testicular cancer seven years ago. He lost his identical twin to pancreatic cancer at the same time.

[00:21:36] Christie Miller: So initially the fear was a bonding mechanism like he'd been through it and now here I am going through it within my own body and then it was like, okay, so we are, we're completely bonded now it's about, um, We don't need the fear to connect us. We now need to create our game plan and [00:22:00] realize that healing is a mindset game and we both know how to win.

[00:22:04] Christie Miller: And so we were able to release it for some of my clients. Uh, fear is serving them by allowing them to stay in the victim mentality where they're getting a whole bunch of attention and a whole bunch of love, um, because they're so scared and they're, they're letting everyone know they're scared. So they're, they're just getting more attention that way.

[00:22:26] Christie Miller: And I can tell you, I get plenty of attention with this approach that I'm taking. So it's, it's individual for each person. And even when we got the news of the brain guest, which officially meant it was stage four and quote, as they say, terminal, let's talk about that word later, uh, it was, again, we had, the two of us had a major meltdown sitting on the beach, tears just flowing down.

[00:22:56] Christie Miller: And then it was almost like we went into a huddle and it was game on. [00:23:00] Okay. We're out of the fear. We're into our empowered, uh, situation. And now we're going to figure out how to win this game. And that was when we brought you on too, which was beautiful and magical.

[00:23:13] Dr. Katie Deming: ~Yeah. ~Well, I think that's important that we are not saying to bypass your fear. You want to feel the emotions and that's another part of my practice is teaching people how to process and be with the emotions in a way That is healthy and allows you to move through them and process them because we are emotional beings.

[00:23:36] Dr. Katie Deming: We have to allow those to run through us because if we don't and we shove them down or we just get lost in them, that can make us sick. The emotions of like not processing that can make you sick. So moving through it. But then, and I've seen you move through this. So the, like moving from the grieving, the, the fear, the sadness to, okay, [00:24:00] game on.

[00:24:00] Dr. Katie Deming: And like you put your game face on and we are going. And this happened when you and I first were working together and we did that, the first water fast, we did, you did 17 days. And I remember I brought it up and, um, Because you, I think at the time you were sick and you'd come back from a work, a mastermind or something and had gotten COVID and you were sick.

[00:24:22] Dr. Katie Deming: And then I had heard about like my mentor had been talking to me about fasting. I said, well, we could do a prolonged water fast. And that would help with your COVID and, you know, the cancer. And, and you were so defeated. And so like, kind of like, I felt like, screw you. Like I'm, I'm down. And now you're like kicking me while I'm down to like, say I shouldn't eat.

[00:24:42] Dr. Katie Deming: And then. Within like a few hours, you move through that and then you were like, you messaged me back and you're like, game on. I'm starting now. And I was like, okay, I was shocked at how quickly you move through that. But I've watched you do that. And I think that's one thing [00:25:00] for people. To see that we're saying is like, yes, feel the feelings, but then don't stay there too long and then move through it and put your game face on.

[00:25:10] Dr. Katie Deming: And then you got to do things differently. If you want a different result than what you're creating, which basically, if you're sick, your body is creating the illness in your body to send a message. So if you want to get a different result, you have to take that message and do something different.

[00:25:26] Christie Miller: Absolutely. And that was also part of my journey and continues to be, and it's something that I teach my clients is empowering yourself. So from the very beginning, I never said why me or this isn't fair. My mindset, because I am a trained mindset coach was all right, this is where we're at. I'm going to take a hundred percent responsibility for creating the disease in my body because if I created it.

[00:25:54] Christie Miller: I can uncreate it, or I can heal it. And that is such an [00:26:00] empowered place to be. It's like grabbing the steering wheel and just flooring the car. And again, it's, it's a choice and fear is part of the journey. We do have to give ourselves permission. I have five permissions that I talk about in order to heal.

[00:26:18] Christie Miller: And it's important to be going through the emotions because we can't just Shove it all down and, you know, pretend we're not in fear and put a pretty bow on it because that is going to create more disease.

[00:26:30] Dr. Katie Deming: ~. So ~you recently spoke at a Gaia event, Heal with Kelly at Gaia, and you talked about permission of healing, and I'd love for you to share with the audience, what is that? Tell us about it.

[00:26:46] Christie Miller: Sure. So it was called permission granted the mindset of healing. And looking back on my journey, I realized that there are five core permissions that we need to give [00:27:00] ourselves. And the first permission is permission to laugh. We've all heard the saying laughter is the best medicine and cancer can be heavy, really heavy.

[00:27:12] Christie Miller: I've lost loved ones. I think Most people that are listening to this probably has two or they've had a diagnosis. It can be heavy, but allowing ourselves daily laughter is something that's just going to get the endorphins going, boost us up and make us put us in a better position to heal. So that's permission.

[00:27:34] Christie Miller: Number one, permission. Number two is permission to cry. You've seen me cry a lot and You haven't seen me in a lot of cries because they take place off zoom also But crying actually allows us to acknowledge all the feelings that we're going through also if we cry With our inner [00:28:00] circle, like you don't want to go out on the street corner and just start crying, but if that's when it happens, that's when it happens.

[00:28:05] Christie Miller: But when we cry with our inner circle, our closest loved ones, our biggest supporters, they're also able to come to our aid and really support us in a deeper way. You know, if we just put up this facade, this wall of everything is great. Nobody can help us. And it's like, we're on an island alone and healing is definitely a team sport.

[00:28:28] Christie Miller: So those are the first two permissions, permission to laugh, permission to cry. Then there's permission to spend, and this goes twofold. It's permission, giving ourselves the permission to spend the money on our care. Unfortunately, in this Day and age, the holistic treatments, the treatments that are helping me heal.

[00:28:47] Christie Miller: Uh, those are not covered by insurance. So it's about getting to the place where we acknowledge that we are worthy. We deserve it. And that by putting the, the monetary [00:29:00] exchange, by spending the money, which money is energy, that it will eventually come back to us again, living with an abundance mindset instead of the lack.

[00:29:10] Christie Miller: So giving ourselves permission to spend on holistic treatment and coaches and mentors and supplements and all of that, but even more importantly, permission to spend time. I completely changed my schedule. I stepped so far back out of my business that it's actually a miracle that it's still running. Uh, because I knew that I couldn't heal with the same schedule that I created disease.

[00:29:38] Christie Miller: So the first three, laugh, cry, spend, then there's permission to choose. And this is, we've already been talking about this. This is choose our path, choose our attitude, choose our mindset, all of that. And then the final one is permission to ask. And that's ask for help healing. Again, I've said it is a team sport.

[00:29:58] Christie Miller: And [00:30:00] I know with 100 percent certainty that I would not be where I am today. without you, Dr. Katie. I mean, I am still the captain of the team, but I'm the one that's hiring the coaches and the mentors and, and everyone that can get me to, um, I don't know the super bowl trophy of cancer, whatever it is. And so it's permission to laugh, cry, spend.

[00:30:26] Christie Miller: Choose and ask and I have a whole freebie and video training and workbook on this for the listeners

[00:30:32] Dr. Katie Deming: Okay, perfect. So we can link to that. So we'll definitely have that for everyone because this is beautiful because this is like hitting all the things that we've talked about. We talked about, you don't want to bypass the fear and the motions and the crying is allow yourself to acknowledge the feelings.

[00:30:48] Dr. Katie Deming: And also I love that. It's about allowing, you know, to have other people help you by permission to ask, but then also by allowing yourself to experience the [00:31:00] emotions allows you to show that vulnerability to your loved ones and also to your support team so that you can receive that love. And that's actually, I, you know, I work with a very small, um, clientele, like, so I only take 15 clients at a time because when I'm with them, and you know, this.

[00:31:20] Dr. Katie Deming: When I'm with them, I am a hundred percent with them, but I can't help them if they don't tell me what's going on. And I have one client right now who she had just had surgery and she was waiting for the results and it's been really challenging, but she's been messaging me about the challenges and, and, and, and really I keep thanking her.

[00:31:41] Dr. Katie Deming: Cause I'm like, Thank you for telling me. Thank you for being vulnerable for showing your emotions because that's how I get to help and show up for you if we don't know what's happening and you put on a mask to say everything's fine. It's hard to allow those people who want to support you [00:32:00] and love you to be able to come in there.

[00:32:02] Dr. Katie Deming: So I, I, I absolutely love this list and I think everyone needs to really sit with these pieces and The permission to laugh, like that's a huge one. And I love it because you're like the perfect person. Every time I get on a call with you, I feel like I'm in stitches, just like laughing over and even over stuff.

[00:32:20] Dr. Katie Deming: That's like, it could be really serious. Like it could be something that, you know, cancer is serious. And sometimes people are afraid to laugh because they think, Oh, that's insensitive or whatever. And. And I think that you have to, to break that tension, and you know, it's like, we had a, you know, text thread about, I don't, I don't, you can say it if you want to say it, but it was something that was like, a little bit, like, most people maybe don't want to talk about, but actually you sent an email to all your people about it, so I'm sure you would talk about it, and you're sending me these photos that I was, Cracking up that I was like, I, I just love her because she is just willing to just be silly and laugh even when [00:33:00] things are kind of like, not so fun.

[00:33:02] Christie Miller: Yeah, and and I'll say it because I did send out an email to my subscribers. So I had developed a lovely Stage of hemorrhoids had never had them in the past and what was so great with you is I sent you a photo of a baboons inflamed butt, which, and explain like, that's how I felt. And, uh, what I love about you is the message that you sent back to me was, okay, here's all the physical things to do.

[00:33:30] Christie Miller: But the best part of the message was, and I want you to look up the spiritual meaning of hemorrhoids. And I did, I Googled it and Oh, it was spot on. And this is what's so powerful about the work that you do, because I can see what had created and it had just been in the last couple of days before these painful things showed up and this situation.

[00:33:57] Christie Miller: And my actions and [00:34:00] beliefs and emotions around it created the hemorrhoids. And as soon as I shifted my beliefs and my created an action plan going forward, they were gone within a couple of days. And I mean, it was, it went from being so extremely painful. I couldn't sit, I couldn't lie. I couldn't move nothing without extreme pain, like an eight on a scale of one to 10, and I'm really good with pain threshold.

[00:34:25] Christie Miller: And they just. Poof, like as suddenly as they came on, they went away and that's the power of your work and the healing and really getting in touch with the spiritual laws and connecting to the divine. And it doesn't matter if people call it. God, universe, spirit, source, divine. There is a higher power out there and that is such an important part of our healing journey.

[00:34:51] Dr. Katie Deming: Yeah,

[00:34:52] Christie Miller: I was making you laugh with that picture.

[00:34:55] Dr. Katie Deming: I was laughing so hard, but then what I loved about it was too is as soon as you [00:35:00] identified. What had, you know, what the spiritual reason, like what had caused that in your body, you immediately addressed it. And then it was amazing within a couple of days, it was no longer a physical problem. And I think that is.

[00:35:14] Dr. Katie Deming: This stuff is real, like this is not like the, the things that are manifesting in your body are messages of something that is going on in your life. It really is bigger than the physical, the physical sign that you're experiencing is the messenger to say, hey, hey, pay attention here. And so, yeah. But anyway, I love that because you just, you, you make me laugh all the time.

[00:35:38] Dr. Katie Deming: But these permissions, I think, are something that people, if they can sit with these and they can take this to heart, this is transformative for healing.

[00:35:48] Christie Miller: Yeah. And I think it's, it's so important. We touched on it earlier about peace and how our body is sending us messages. This was instantaneous. [00:36:00] I was not at peace with a situation, a relationship in my life. And that's why the hemorrhoids appeared. And as soon as I got to the place of peace with a plan, poof, gone.

[00:36:15] Christie Miller: And it was, what was so interesting to me was how quickly it happened because I could really see once again, I guess I needed my belief strengthened once again, the connection. Everything with how we're showing up as people and how our body is going to reflect, uh, what's going on. And it's so amazing that our body has the power to do that.

[00:36:39] Christie Miller: And the most important thing is for us to listen and see and then, and observe, take it all in and then change so that we can heal. Because without the peace, we can't heal.

[00:36:53] Dr. Katie Deming: Yeah. And that can, and it can happen like that. You know, it doesn't have to be slow. Like healing can be [00:37:00] fast. It can be in an instant. If you're able to get that message and then shift whatever needs to happen to find the peace. So I, I want to touch on unconditional love because, and you're wearing a sweatshirt or sweater with, with heart on it.

[00:37:16] Dr. Katie Deming: And I know that love is like a really big, it's obviously foundational. I think that, you know, we are love and that love is actually the only thing that exists. But, um, unconditional love plays a big role in healing. And I just want to hear your. You talk about that because you have such a powerful way of, of sharing.

[00:37:37] Christie Miller: Yeah, so I think I told you earlier before we started recording that I have the biggest crush on myself right now. And that I did not have a crush on Christie pre diagnosis. And if we, if we believe in a higher power, again, God, universe, spirit, source, divine, whatever you want to call it, [00:38:00] and that we were created by that higher power, then we, in and of ourselves, just by the fact that we're here, we are.

[00:38:08] Christie Miller: Perfect. We are perfectly created. I call it imperfectly perfect because we all have our challenges and our issues and all of that. But if we believe that we are put on this planet created by a higher source, then how can we not unconditionally love this body, this soul, this life that we are living here on earth school.

[00:38:34] Christie Miller: And that doesn't mean that we don't have stumbles. It doesn't mean that we don't have flaws, but when we can put into practice things that every day make us realize that I am love, you are love, we are love, and we operate from that place of I am love. It helps us then treat ourselves and [00:39:00] follow the protocols and do the exercise and do the mindset work and go walk and all of that, that comes from a place of unconditional love.

[00:39:10] Christie Miller: And I was talking to a client the other day who was struggling to really see. See unconditional love in her life. Cause we were talking about parents and there's my feels like there's strings attached. And I said, well, have you ever had an animal? I don't know about cats, but dogs are classic, unconditional love. I can be a total bitch out there on the streets, come home. I can even be a bitch to Winnie, but she will unconditionally love me. Animals just show that it's there. And when we can flip that and have the unconditional love for ourselves, it makes the healing journey so much more enjoyable and easier because we're not, we're not doubting ourselves.

[00:39:55] Christie Miller: We're not complaining about ourselves. We're not blaming ourselves. I never blamed [00:40:00] or shamed myself for creating the cancer. I took responsibility for it, but it came from a place of love and empowerment. And the unconditional love I think is like the, the accelerator to the healing. And for a lot of women in particular, it's difficult to get there.

[00:40:18] Christie Miller: And if they just start by every morning, looking in the mirror with complete bedhead and just say, I love you, I just got chills saying that.

[00:40:29] Dr. Katie Deming: Yeah. Well, and I think this ties to the permission to spend time like this is one of the things where I think the permission to spend time on your own healing and especially for women and I see this a lot with breast cancer specifically, women are used to being the caregiver, taking care of everyone else, loving everyone else unconditionally, but not having that same love for themselves.

[00:40:55] Dr. Katie Deming: And so then they. They feel selfish about doing the things [00:41:00] that are required, actually, like this is required. It's required to really turn the focus on yourself in order to heal. And self love is like one of the foundational things that I work with my clients. And then with, um, will, who does the emotional healing with my clients, you know, self love self worth is like the foundation of it all.

[00:41:22] Dr. Katie Deming: If you don't have that, you Really can't get to the piece and you can't do the things that are required to transform the illness into health. Like, I really think that that is foundational. And, and I love that, that you describe, you know, getting up and looking at Mary and telling yourself that you love yourself.

[00:41:42] Dr. Katie Deming: And that is one thing that. When I was going through my transition out of western medicine into you know, who knows what I was like I don't know what was going on I was like just you know I was a mess there for a little while because I was like You're just like a crazy person you just like gave up everything and you don't [00:42:00] even know what you're gonna do And when I I realized I was like nobody's coming to save you like this is you like it's you and you so like you and then I was like You know what?

[00:42:11] Dr. Katie Deming: I was like, I actually, I'm like, when I practice, so I was like a few months out, I had left and so I was like probably like four months out of my practice. I was like, you know what? There are a lot of people who would choose me to be on their team. So how lucky am I that if nobody's coming to save me? And I'm my teammate.

[00:42:31] Dr. Katie Deming: How lucky am I that I'm my teammate? And I decided that day I was like every day I would wake up and I didn't believe it at first, but I would hold my hand. And I, I talked about this on the recent episode where I talked about my wellness routine, but every morning when I wake up, I do say thank you to, you know, God's source, the divine and connect with all living beings as like a way of respect and connecting and having gratitude for that, of being some.

[00:42:58] Dr. Katie Deming: part of something that's bigger [00:43:00] than myself. But then the next thing that I do is I hold my own hand and I didn't believe it when I first said it, but I would say, Katie, I love you and I've got your back. You know, I, I am not going to leave you. And what you don't have to believe it when you start, when you start looking in the mirror and say, you love yourself, or if you hold your hand in the morning and you say, I love yourself.

[00:43:25] Dr. Katie Deming: You may not believe it initially, but if you do it long enough, now I wake up and I like love myself. I'm like, I love you. I'm like happy. Like we're, we're a good team, you know? But it's like, it, that didn't happen overnight, but it is. And it, for me has been foundational to be able to lead others because, because unconditional foundational for healing.

[00:43:48] Dr. Katie Deming: I can't teach people what I don't already have myself. You know, and so this is a big piece of the work. And if this is something that is a challenge for [00:44:00] listeners, you know, one book actually, that is a great resource on self love is love yourself. Like your life depends upon it. Um, and we can link it in the comments.

[00:44:11] Dr. Katie Deming: I think it's Robbie Conn is the, um, author and. It's, it's an incredible book because it gives you some practices that you can do over 30 days to really, you're not going to believe it when you start the practices, but if you do this consistently, this kind of work on self love and unconditional love will change your life.

[00:44:32] Dr. Katie Deming: Absolutely. Absolutely.

[00:44:35] Christie Miller: percent, it will change your life. And I, I love what you were saying because in the morning I will say, good morning, Christie. I love you. I'm still in bed. Okay. And then the gratitude of, I see this beautiful pink coming out of my heart and covering the entire earth. And just all the love going around to everyone.

[00:44:59] Christie Miller: And one [00:45:00] of the last things I say at night, you know, right before I'm going into that pre sleep pre dream stage is goodnight, Christie. I love you. And it's just, it's, it's to have that. Um, I noticed that once I started doing that, I would see hearts everywhere. And I know I sent you a picture of a heart in a very strange place yesterday.

[00:45:25] Christie Miller: And, uh, today I was out walking on the beach and I found a piece of sea glass in the shape of a heart. Uh, instantly noticed it, picked it up, I have it downstairs. Uh, just a couple days ago, one of the, um, sprouts that I was growing, uh, a leaf or a sprout, one particular sprout got stuck on the lid that I went to go wash of the container, and it is a perfect heart.

[00:45:49] Christie Miller: I took a picture of it. And I think once we start moving into the place of unconditional love and saying I am love and creating all of our [00:46:00] beliefs around this loving human being that we are, we'll start seeing hearts in just the most random places. And it's the coolest thing, because nature has a really good way of creating love and showing it to us in different forms.

[00:46:14] Dr. Katie Deming: Well, Christie, it's been a pleasure having you on the show. Please tell the audience where they can find you, and then we will link to, uh, your permission granted and then also to your site, but please tell people where they can find you.

[00:46:29] Christie Miller: Sure. You can find me at my website, coach Christie Miller and it's C H R I S T I E for anyone just listening, Christie Miller. And then also on Instagram, I am at coach Christie Miller. And, uh, we've been quiet on Instagram lately, but we're, uh, We're coming back. We're going to come back with a splash. And, uh, I just enjoy connecting with people.

[00:46:53] Christie Miller: So shoot me a DM, shoot me an email and, and I'm here for you. I'm, I'm here for this journey.

[00:46:59] Dr. Katie Deming: Thanks [00:47:00] so much, Christie.

[00:47:00] Christie Miller: Thank you.