[00:00:00] Christie Miller: it had me question myself, why me? Who am I to receive this life changing gift? Like it's still to this day, it's, it's unfathomable. It's, it's, it's unexplainable. And as I was first describing it, I was saying it's heavy, but not from a heavy, negative heavy.[00:00:25] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Have you ever wondered what it takes to achieve a radical remission from cancer? I [00:00:30] had the privilege of sitting down with my amazing client, Christy Miller. Christy is a conscious healer who stunned her doctors, myself included, with her remarkable recovery. As a mindset coach herself, she brings a unique perspective to her healing journey, which she candidly shares with us today.

[00:00:46] Dr. Katie Deming MD: You'll hear the raw emotions and powerful insights as Christy takes us through not only her initial diagnosis of breast cancer, but also her later diagnosis of brain metastasis. She reveals a pivotal [00:01:00] moment that guided her to refuse chemotherapy and embrace a holistic path instead. We'll explore how a prolonged water fast led to a profound shift in both her physical health and her belief in what is possible.

[00:01:13] Dr. Katie Deming MD: You'll walk away from this episode believing that anything is possible when it comes to your health and wellbeing. Let's dive in.

[00:01:20] Dr. Katie Deming MD: You're listening to the Born to Heal podcast, and I'm your host, Dr. Katie Deming. After two decades of practicing as an [00:01:30] oncologist and caring for thousands of patients, I've seen firsthand how our healthcare system places obstacles in your path to true healing. My guests and I will bridge the worlds of Western medicine and alternative healing to help you achieve optimal health.

[00:01:45] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Expect to uncover new insights, share a few laughs, and maybe even shed some tears. But most of all, we'll learn how to heal from within together. So let's dive into today's episode.

[00:01:59] Dr. Katie Deming MD: I [00:02:00] am very excited to introduce Christy Miller, who is one of my clients, and we're going to talk about our journey together and working together towards her healing and specifically, about water fasting and what it's like to do a prolonged water fast and the results that she's gotten through the work that we've done together.

[00:02:25] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Thank you. It is absolutely my pleasure to be here with you.

[00:02:28] Dr. Katie Deming MD: you and I met [00:02:30] in November of 2023 and give us a brief summary of what led up to you seeing me at that time, what you were dealing with that, that you came to work with me and, kind of a brief summary of what had happened before that,that November date.

[00:02:46] Christie Miller: Of course, I was diagnosed with HER2 positive breast cancer, a very aggressive form of breast cancer, as my doctor pointed out in June of 2022. And [00:03:00] I was told that I needed like five or six months of chemo surgery. Then I think it was three, four months of radiation and then a lumpectomy. And I was all signed up for chemotherapy.

[00:03:14] Christie Miller: And then I kept having these dreams. Where I was just saying F no, and the first time I had that dream, I thought, okay, I'm just scared. And then I had it again. And then I had it the third time. And I realized that this was my intuition [00:03:30] telling me. Chemo and radiation is not the path for me. And so I chose to do it my own way.

[00:03:38] Christie Miller: Even though the doctors told me that I would be dead in a year if I didn't do their chemotherapy and their radiation. So I went forward, I found the best breast cancer surgeons, the oncologist and oncology surgeon and the plastic surgeon. I went with them and I basically [00:04:00] changed everything in my life. I took a hundred percent responsibility and uh, everything went really well.

[00:04:06] Christie Miller: I was feeling great. All of that and then in October of 2023, even though we had evicted the breast guest,uh, somehow cancer picked the lock and I had a brain guest, which was a two centimeter tumor in my brain. And that's when I found you. And thank goodness.

[00:04:28] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Perfect. So I love that. And [00:04:30] let me just, so that we can get the dates all right of that. So it was June of 2022 that you were diagnosed. Is that right? Is that what you said? And then they had recommended, it sounds like neoadjuvant chemotherapy and then surgery and then radiation after the surgery. You elected to do surgery alone.

[00:04:49] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Do you want to explain what type of surgery? Did you have mastectomy? Did you have lumpectomy? Thank you.

[00:04:53] Christie Miller: Sure. I went to four or five different surgeons before I found my team and they were all [00:05:00] giving me different,protocols and different,surgery options. but it never sounded like an option. Like each doctor had their own way and it was this way or the highway. So one doctor told me I needed a radical mastectomy.

[00:05:15] Christie Miller: another one said that I could do a lumpectomy, but she was going to take the nipple. And I'm like, I don't care. I'm here to save my life. I don't care about the nipple. and I never felt connected to any of these surgeons. And then when I found my two [00:05:30] surgeons at the Bedford breast center, I walked in and I knew I was home and they were saying that we can do a lumpectomy.

[00:05:39] Christie Miller: We're going to have to do a reduction on the other breasts because of the size of the mass. And then we can also do a lift so that they match. And I'm like, okay, cool. Let's do it.

[00:05:50] Christie Miller: So it was a pretty extensive surgery.

[00:05:51] Dr. Katie Deming MD: but you had a lumpectomy, basically an oncoplastic lumpectomy and radiation would have been recommended as part of that [00:06:00] treatment. And what you just described was that. Basically from July or June of 2022 until November of 2023, it has not come back in the breast or the lymph nodes has not come back elsewhere in the body, but you developed one area in the brain that we're calling the brain guest.

[00:06:21] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Is that correct? Just so that everyone's following.

[00:06:25] Christie Miller: Yeah, it was actually in one lymph node out of the seven [00:06:30] that they took during the breast guest eviction.

[00:06:33] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Right, so you had a tumor in the breast, one lymph node, surgery, and sentinel lymph node biopsy, or lumpectomy and sentinel lymph node biopsy only. No radiation, no chemotherapy. And now in October, the area and the brain shows up. And so this is when you and I found each other and tell me you said that you had changed your life completely.

[00:06:56] Dr. Katie Deming MD: So you said you took responsibility, even though you [00:07:00] were clear that the dreams were clearly telling you that. You were not going to do chemotherapy and you decided to do this path. And in doing that, you were going to completely change your life to reduce your risk in every way that you could, other than doing these treatments.

[00:07:15] Dr. Katie Deming MD: So tell us some of the things that had you had done in this process, leaning up to the time when you met.

[00:07:26] Christie Miller: took a hundred percent responsibility. And when I was [00:07:30] diagnosed, uh, it's scary. I mean, I'm, I'm never going to say that this is not scary or that it's been easy, but it was so scary. And so I had two days of just absolute. mess. I was at the dark side.

[00:07:43] Christie Miller: And then I think it was like late on day two or early on day three. I was walking on the beach, really connecting to nature and doing my spiritual practices. And I just got this feeling that cancer is a gift. And that completely changed my mindset. And so in [00:08:00] that moment, I made a decision to win. And I chose to believe that cancer was going to be part of my story and not the end of it.

[00:08:10] Christie Miller: And by taking a hundred percent responsibility, that wasn't blame or shame. It was okay. If I am responsible for the breast guest coming in, then I also have the power to escort her out. And it was, I'm just going to do it my way. And I changed literally [00:08:30] everything in my life. I cut the amount of hours that I work down by probably in the beginning, about 90 percent cut my hours.

[00:08:39] Christie Miller: I was willing to take what ended up being a 50 percent reduction in my business revenue. completely changed the way I was eating. We're coming up on my 777th day of no alcohol, no sugar and no fried foods. And let me tell you, those were three of my four food groups [00:09:00] before I got diagnosed with a breast cast.

[00:09:02] Christie Miller: So it was really just. Being responsible, being selective of who was allowed on my team, never giving up the leadership of my team. I am the captain. People need to try out and earn a spot on my team, which you did really quickly. It was one meeting with you and I knew, Oh, Dr. Katie, yes, we got this.

[00:09:25] Dr. Katie Deming MD: I love it. Okay. And so tell me. When the brain guest [00:09:30] arrived in October, what was that like for you? And what did you do then? Like what was your experience of having this new guest? And then what were your, the first things that you did?

[00:09:45] Christie Miller: I want to say that this was 10, 20, a hundred times scarier than the breast guest because part of what it brought to fruition was, uh, Oh, what [00:10:00] I'm doing somehow hasn't been working. So that was the initial fear. Also at the time I was I was 58. Yeah, 58. Got to count backwards. I was 58 and,coming close to my 59th birthday, just four months away.

[00:10:16] Christie Miller: And my husband had lost his identical twin to cancer at age 59. And all I could think of was, Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. We are not playing this weird twin thing. It's not fair for Mark to lose his [00:10:30] wife of 30 plus years also at age 59. And I remember we sat on the beach watching the sunset and just saying just horrible things.

[00:10:41] Christie Miller: I won't repeat them on, on your podcast. It was expletives that we were crying and it was like, darn, like I thought we had this. And then we basically huddled and I was like, okay, game on. We won the first battle. We're going to win this battle, but this was so much scarier. [00:11:00] And, you know, I know that cancer is a systemic disease.

[00:11:03] Christie Miller: However, I was kind of looking at it as, yeah, you know, just cut my breast off. I don't really need that. But then when it's in my brain, I'm a coach. This is my livelihood. I'm a very smart individual. I kind of need my brain to function. And so it was so scary. So much scarier. And that's why I just sought out the person that I knew could really help me through this.

[00:11:27] Christie Miller: And that was you.

[00:11:28] Dr. Katie Deming MD: I think that what you're [00:11:30] bringing up is so important for people to recognize is that. This was a big diagnosis to have it spread to your brain and really a game changer for you now. It's stage four. Now it's your brain. It's not just something that you can cut off and do without.

[00:11:48] Dr. Katie Deming MD: There's real fears around. What does this mean? And also the questions, you know, and I think this is really important that, you know, These, when things come up obstacles, it make us question [00:12:00] like what I'm doing is what I'm doing working should I be shifting course? And I guess that's a question that I have for you is, did you think like I need to do something different overall or you are just looking like, okay, with this brain guess I'm going to do something different.

[00:12:15] Dr. Katie Deming MD: I'm kind of wondering what your mindset was.

[00:12:17] Christie Miller: at first it was, like I said, maybe what we're doing isn't working, but it was a two day period of really being in this fear. And then I remember sending Mark a [00:12:30] email,with the scan that originally picked this up was from pre Nubo. And so I had a couple of reports throughout the years and I took that report and I just updated it.

[00:12:42] Christie Miller: You know, I was playing around in Canva and I updated it and post dated it to June of 2024 with a new report that says my conditions had been resolved, whatever their language was. And so I instantly got into this mindset of, okay, we're just playing whack a mole again. [00:13:00] This is going to be okay. We are going to win this battle also.

[00:13:05] Christie Miller: And the comfort that I got was I hadn't done All of my protocols perfectly. I didn't walk every single day in nature for an hour unplugged. I did it most of the days I wasn't journaling every single day. My sauna that I bought, well, I hadn't really been going into it. It was more of a storage container in my garage.

[00:13:29] Christie Miller: And [00:13:30] so I knew. That there was so much more room for improvement and additional protocols that it was just time to step it up. And I really looked at this as, again, an even bigger gift for me. And it was, okay, why is this happening for me? What is the lesson here? And I got to say, I'm so thankful for the breast guest because she prepared me to be ready to accept the brain [00:14:00] guest in a way that I felt empowered.

[00:14:03] Christie Miller: I felt in control and I was very quickly able to get to the, the end zone where we had already won.

[00:14:12] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Okay. So this is really important for people to hear because what you did there and it's not going to surprise people that Christy is a mindset coach, but basically a lot of people get caught in that. Oh, no, what did I do? What did I do? You know, and [00:14:30] then beating themselves up, which actually is not going to help you with moving forward and, Getting the result that you want, right? It's going to keep you in that place. But what you were able to do was to shift that and say, okay, game on. I did this before. I'm going to do it again. And look, I've got opportunities. Here's places where I was doing things, but maybe I could bring my game up in all of these areas.

[00:14:55] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And so that alone right there is really, really important for [00:15:00] people to hear, because this is part of what creates. really remarkable outcomes. So I love all of this. And so tell me, what we did that was maybe challenged you the most. And also was like,kind of the, the biggest part of, of the work with me that you did

[00:15:20] Christie Miller: Okay. Initially, just having you and your knowledge being a former, Radiology oncologist. Is that the right [00:15:30] title?

[00:15:30] Dr. Katie Deming MD: radiation oncologist.

[00:15:32] Christie Miller: I was close. Um, having that be your experience and having left that to go to the healing side, it was so great because you spoke all the medical language, but then you could translate it to me to where it was simple to understand.

[00:15:48] Christie Miller: So initially it was you kind of holding my hand and being by my side and walking me through it. And I remember one of the things that you suggested [00:16:00] was,creating an intention circle. So on the day of surgery, I was supposed to be in Scottsdale with a mastermind that I'm in and all 30 plus members got in a circle that morning and said incredible things and sent power and prayers and healing and energy to me.

[00:16:21] Christie Miller: And that was your idea. And I was able to actually listen to this during my surgery. And I just kept [00:16:30] having it on repeat because it was about a four minute video that they had filmed while they were doing the intention circle. And my head was bolted to a table so I couldn't watch it, but I just had it, you know, right on the bed and I just kept repeating, repeating, repeating.

[00:16:46] Christie Miller: And that was so powerful.

[00:16:49] Dr. Katie Deming MD: I'm so glad to hear that. And for people who don't know, so intention circles, a lot of this, the research around this has been done with Lynn Taggart and her book, I think it's the power [00:17:00] of eight, but basically talks about the power of intention and that it's been shown,through studies of that they can, Have peace.

[00:17:13] Dr. Katie Deming MD: So when there's intention set, you can actually see that regions that they're intending peace for around the world actually have cease fires or less deaths. And so she uses the information around creating intention circles to use in all different kinds of context and [00:17:30] healing is 1 of them. You were, when you, you say that you were going in for surgery.

[00:17:34] Dr. Katie Deming MD: So let's explain to the audience that basically, is it okay if I summarize here?

[00:17:40] Christie Miller: Absolutely.

[00:17:41] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Okay, so Christy had been diagnosed with the brain guest, which we, I might have called it a brain metastasis, but we don't use the language with Christy, but just so that you guys know what we're talking about. And basically, it was a solitary brain metastasis in the brain, and she ended up seeing a [00:18:00] neurosurgeon who recommended gamma knife radio surgery.

[00:18:03] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And so. I remember that you weren't sure you were like, you saw him and, and then you tell us about your decision making process with that because you actually had declined some other conventional therapy. So tell us what came in when you were thinking about the gamma knife.

[00:18:21] Christie Miller: Sure. as soon as I got the,the information from pre NUBA, that there was a brain tumor that was suspected to be cancer, but I had to go [00:18:30] another step. I instantly started researching,neurosurgeons. And I told Mark, I'm like, we're going to go fast, but we're not going to let conventional medicine.

[00:18:41] Christie Miller: rush us. And the reason why I wanted to go fast was because the brain guest was so much scarier to me than the breast guest. Back with the breast guest, I was diagnosed in June, didn't have surgery until the end of August. But with this, I'm like, let's get her out of my brain. So I told Mark, [00:19:00] it may be three, four or five surgeons.

[00:19:02] Christie Miller: I don't care if we have to travel around the world. I am going to find the surgeon that I feel so comfortable with, just like the breast guest surgeons. And so the first doctor that I saw, Dr. Tuma at Hoag hospital, I was in his office and he was looking at my scans from prenuvo and he was just about ready to go into, okay, this is what's going on.

[00:19:26] Christie Miller: Like he was already. And I said, no, hang [00:19:30] on. I need to tell you about myself before you even look at the scans. I was born premature, addicted to illegal drugs and not expected to live. I believe I was placed on this planet to show people how to overcome obstacles, regardless of the odds. And so I went through more of my story through life, talking about how my husband had cancer at the same time as identical twin brother was dying of cancer.

[00:19:56] Christie Miller: And that for me, dying is not an option. [00:20:00] And that I am only allowing certain doctors on my team who are in it to win it. And his response was so quick and so immediate that I remember looking at Mark and winking at him. I knew we found our doctor with the first attempt. And he's like, okay, we need a scan.

[00:20:18] Christie Miller: We need it today. I'm like, okay, well, let's do it. And then it moved really quickly. I think it was within seven, 10, 14 days of meeting him and then getting into surgery.

[00:20:29] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Okay. And [00:20:30] so the plan was to do the gamma knife stereotactic radiosurgery. And so you needed to have a scan to plan that and basically do the whole procedure. And tell me, tell us what you did. You talked a little bit about the intention circle, but I want to talk about the work that the work that I do in my practice.

[00:20:50] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And this is work that you would have done anyway, knowing you. but basically tell the audience what you did for visualization and preparing [00:21:00] yourself for that procedure.

[00:21:02] Christie Miller: Sure. This is where people are going to think, wow, Christy Miller. She was dropped on her head. but this is just the way I roll. Uh, shortly after the breast guest appeared, we were in an airport and I saw an FAO Schwartz,toy store and they had a full size unicorn. I actually bought it. I have a full size unicorn in my family room that every morning I hug her, I named her Wonder, and I asked her and the universe and God and spirit, show me the [00:21:30] wonderful things of today.

[00:21:31] Christie Miller: So I'm very much into the mental and tapping into Gus, God, universe, spirit for guidance. And so I, you know, one of my first steps was, okay, we need to get into the visualization. I need to see myself at the finish line of this race or this battle. I don't really like to call it a battle, but that's common terms in the cancer circles.

[00:21:54] Christie Miller: So I wanted to look and see myself at the finish line. And one of the things that I [00:22:00] did for visualization was. I named my immune system Homeland Security and the head of Homeland Security was Captain Callie and every day I would call upon her and tell her to release the troops. I giggle when I say this because it's so funny.

[00:22:17] Christie Miller: And what I see happening is white light going throughout my body first and then a kazillion bright pink Pac Man. Maybe they're pack women, maybe they're pack, whatever, [00:22:30] non sexual. And they start in the head and they literally go through every single part of my body, eliminating any threats, any unhealthy cells.

[00:22:42] Christie Miller: This visualization can take anywhere from five minutes to 20 minutes. And I do it. I haven't done it every single day, but I probably. 95 percent of the days I've done it. And at the end, the, uh, the Pac Man report in the captain Callie and [00:23:00] say, ma'am, no threats to report.

[00:23:02] Christie Miller: And she says, great, we'll see you again tomorrow. I do this and it, it just helps me get from the place of believing. To knowing. And I know you and I talked about this one day about how I got there. And, you know, in order to believe some people need a lot of proof, other people can just go, yes, I believe that it's possible for me to heal from this and live decades and decades and decades.

[00:23:27] Christie Miller: So I went to the belief and then in order to [00:23:30] switch from belief to a hundred percent certainty and knowing it was these visualizations doing these practically every day. I took a picture of Mark and I and put it into a horrible app that would age us. So we looked like we were 90,man. The skin was horrible.

[00:23:49] Christie Miller: If that's going to be us, we're going to need some serious plastic surgery. And we looked like smokers, but I was like, it's okay. I see us at 90. I visualize us celebrating [00:24:00] many, many more anniversaries. And for me, dying just wasn't an option. I didn't see that in the cards.

[00:24:07] Dr. Katie Deming MD: I think that it's important to give a little bit of your history of, you know, Manifesting incredible things using visualization and like these photos and stuff. So we're going to take a little sideline here for Christie to tell a story about winning cars using, yes, using the techniques that she just described.

[00:24:29] Dr. Katie Deming MD: So, [00:24:30] um, tell us, please tell us

[00:24:33] Christie Miller: so I manifested,my dream car back when I was in high school without even knowing what manifesting was,the convertible rabbit was coming out by Volkswagen later was called a cabriolet, but it was a convertible rabbit and I wanted it so bad. And my family wasn't, we didn't have the money to buy that for me.

[00:24:53] Christie Miller: So I took, I went to the dealership, I asked for a brochure and I cut it out. It was a yellow convertible [00:25:00] rabbit and I put it on my bulletin board and I didn't know about visualization or manifestation at the time, but I just kept looking at it every day and it was on a bulletin board that was in between my closet door and my bedroom door and many times I would just walk by and touch it.

[00:25:16] Christie Miller: And sure enough, after I turned 18, a bank gave me a loan without a cosigner. I mean, it was 15, 000, 20, 000, I don't remember exactly how much the car was. And I was working for [00:25:30] minimum wage at a department store. And they gave me a loan. So that right there is manifestation. It never should, it never logically should have happened.

[00:25:39] Christie Miller: My dad, who was a CPA when he caught me in this car, I was hiding it for a couple of days. he's like, how, how on earth, there's no way a bank gave you a loan without a co signer. So that was one. Then about five years ago, I was in a business contest where there were 700 eligible entrepreneurs to [00:26:00] win a black Porsche Cayenne.

[00:26:02] Christie Miller: I wasn't even going to join the contest. it wasn't a raffle. There were different performances that you had to do in an essay and a video and increasing your revenue. And I wasn't going to join. And then at the last minute, I submitted. The paperwork to be in this contest. And when I submitted that paperwork, I went from, there's no way I can win.

[00:26:21] Christie Miller: The coach doesn't know me. It's going to be her favorites, blah, blah, blah, all this horrible things in our mind that goes to the negative side. And I switched. And I [00:26:30] got to the point where I was like, I really feel sorry for everyone else in this contest because I am the Porsche winner. And I went and I bought this Porsche from the Porsche dealership.

[00:26:40] Dr. Katie Deming MD: she's showing a, just because this is audio she's showing, tell us

[00:26:44] Christie Miller: I'm showing a, uh, a matchbox, a little bit bigger than a matchbox, a black Porsche that I carried around with me. Every place I went for four months, I wrote a hundred times a day. I am the Porsche [00:27:00] winner. And then in the ultimate act of belief, the day before they were announcing the Porsche winner, I sold my Mercedes SUV and my husband came home.

[00:27:11] Christie Miller: He's like, where's your car. And I said, I sold it and he looked at me and by this point, we've been married 30 years. He looked at me and he said, what like, well, I had to tell the universe that I had room for the Porsche that I'm going to win tomorrow. He shakes his head. [00:27:30] He says, you could have parked it on the street. And I was just so certain I was so in this knowing and sure enough, the next day, I won the Porsche.

[00:27:38] Dr. Katie Deming MD: that is an incredible story. And. Just such a powerful example of the power of our mind and of doing these kinds of exercises. So please tell us because I cannot believe I didn't even know about the Volkswagen convertible, but she hasn't just [00:28:00] won one. She's won two more cars this way. So this is not just a fluke that happened.

[00:28:05] Dr. Katie Deming MD: So you don't have to tell the whole stories of those, but just tell us what are the other two cars that you won?

[00:28:09] Christie Miller: Uh, yeah, I won my first car on a game show in college And that wasn't I mean, I guess it was manifestation because I told everyone I was going on a game show and I was gonna break the bank, and that was actually the game show's name, break the bank, and there was always a car in it if you broke the bank.

[00:28:29] Christie Miller: Uh, so that [00:28:30] was a Mazda 3, 2, 3. And then after the Porsche, I think it was three, three years after the Porsche, I was in an affiliate sales contest. A tool that I use in my business that I love. I only recommend tools and things that I am using.

[00:28:46] Christie Miller: And I was just out there promoting it because I really like it. I'm proud of it. I knew my clients,needed it in their business too. And, uh, wasn't going for first place. And then the night before I was in second place and [00:29:00] I was like, Wait a minute. I am the Tesla winner. And sure enough, I got out a piece of paper and I just started writing.

[00:29:07] Christie Miller: I am the Tesla winner. My neighbor across the street has a Tesla. I ran out there and took a picture of me in front of the Tesla. This was like an 1130 at night, horrible picture. I took it, printed it out, put it under my pillow that night. And you know, with law of attraction, it's not just thinking about it.

[00:29:25] Dr. Katie Deming MD: You have to take action. And I was already taking massive action as an affiliate. [00:29:30] But sure enough, I ended up winning and I think it was by one sale. Yeah, you'll take it right. One, it was only one, the difference between when in the car and not. So that is incredible. So on the, with the procedure you're doing, you were already doing all of this visualization and prepping, but on the day of the surgery, you had the intention circle. So we held that and just so people know too, with this is, this is something that with my clients, I do it.

[00:29:59] Dr. Katie Deming MD: [00:30:00] And I will also,group. Join with the group intention, but basically we hold the intention of the perfect the person who is in this case, Christie. So imagining Christie. Like healthy and vibrant and happy and celebrating that she's well and that there is no cancer and just that joy of what we would feel in seeing her in that way.

[00:30:27] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And that's what we would jointly intend [00:30:30] for about 10 minutes. And she had, as she described her, You know, colleagues basically from her mastermind do the intention circle and videotape it and then give it to her, which I love this. This is like an add on to what I had already recommended because now she's taking the power of that group intention and then she's bringing it into her visualization and her manifestation.

[00:30:55] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Practice basically without even saying that this is what basically she's done [00:31:00] here and tell us. I also remember you telling me. that you activated Captain Callie during the procedure. And she was the one who brought in the Pac Man and ate the tumor as you were getting the, the Gamma Knife radiosurgery.

[00:31:15] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And this is something I'm going to let you explain in a minute, but I want people to understand is that whenever you're having any kind of procedure, this is what I would recommend is doing something like this. And she already had. Homeland security and Captain Kelly all [00:31:30] prepped and ready. So it was perfect.

[00:31:32] Dr. Katie Deming MD: But if you don't have something like that, you can use for example, and make it fit with your own, um, you know, just what resonates with you. The whole thing about these things is you just want to pick things that don't feel so far off for you that you can't identify with it. It has to feel kind of natural.

[00:31:47] Dr. Katie Deming MD: So that's why it's going to be different for anyone or for everyone. It could be like a white light coming in and just, you know, dissipating the tumor. It could be little explosions like you imagine little light coming in and [00:32:00] Blasting it or rain coming down and melting it. I mean, there's so many different visualizations that you can use, but choosing something ahead of time that then you can use during the procedure as a visualization of the result that you want.

[00:32:12] Dr. Katie Deming MD: So, Christy, if you want to tell us, how that worked with Homeland Security during your radio surgery.

[00:32:19] Christie Miller: So Homeland Security was there before and after the surgery, during the surgery, I had crystals in my hand that my dear friend Keith had [00:32:30] given to me that he had used in his own healing. And he, when I got diagnosed with a breast guest, he mailed them to me and he said,these are yours. Keep them until you are fully healed.

[00:32:41] Christie Miller: And so I had those in my hand. I had a socks on that on the bottom of the socks, it said,I'm in manifesting mode and then something like miracles in action. I was making it fun. And then I remember when they were bolting me to the table, cause I had this big metal cage [00:33:00] on when they were bolting me, I was, The thought that popped into my head was the wicked witch of the West when her feet were under the house and she was like disintegrating and I remember I started laughing.

[00:33:13] Christie Miller: I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. You gotta stay still. You gotta stay still. You gotta stay still. And it was just collectively knowing how many people were rooting for me, how many people. We're,sending healing energy and during the surgery, I was in such a place [00:33:30] of gratitude and I was practicing gratitude.

[00:33:34] Christie Miller: it's something that Jack Canfield taught me many years ago when I got certified. I call it a rampage of gratitude and like I'm looking at the ceiling and I'm like, I'm so thankful for the person that put the ceiling drywall on and for the person that painted it and for the person that created this machine and I kept visualizing my future scan of being it being completely clear and here's what's so interesting is I had done this [00:34:00] visualization so many times that I didn't know that this was an atypical response.

[00:34:07] Christie Miller: I remember when Dr. Duma said that this is not normal. And then you went even further to explain it to me. I was like, Oh, well it's normal in my mind because this is what I kept seeing. And then I remembered him telling me that the purpose of gamma knife surgery is to slow the growth and shrink the [00:34:30] tumor.

[00:34:30] Christie Miller: And correct me if I'm wrong, but it wasn't to completely eradicate the tumor. Is that correct?

[00:34:35] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Correct.

[00:34:36] Christie Miller: Yeah. So, um, I was using gratitude, crystals, magic socks, you know, the way I look at it is beliefs are made up. So why not make up some really good ones that make you feel good? And I had the most enjoyable day having brain surgery, which sounds [00:35:00] so outlandish, but it's absolutely true and I just think it's the coolest story.

[00:35:06] Christie Miller: About, you know, what happened and everything was great until you told me to do something Then I got the punch to the gut

[00:35:15] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Yeah, so we'll get to that in just a second, but I want to say that I've seen, I saw videos of this day and she was skipping into the radiology department and it was so funny. She sent me so many funny [00:35:30] videos and, you know, telling me, oh, the nurses love me. I'm like, well, I'm sure they do because you are a complete.

[00:35:36] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Like show today, she was just like it, but this is, this is you. And this is why I love working with you is because you really embrace, like, if we're going to, like you said, if beliefs are made up, like. Why not make up the most powerful beliefs possible? Like, why would you not do that? Right. But most of us are afraid because then we've got these like that, you know, negative [00:36:00] mind in there that's throwing up these things like, well, why would you be the one to be able to do this?

[00:36:05] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Or who are you to say that you're going to be so successful? Or you don't know better than the doctors or I don't know whatever it is in your head, right? But all of these things come up. Most people can't. Go to that belief and you know that that future state and the conviction associated with it. And so Your joy on that day showed me, I was like, she believes like, she knows that this is already happening and she's like already [00:36:30] celebrating, like on her way into the treatments, which is just so powerful.

[00:36:35] Dr. Katie Deming MD: So we'll skip quickly to basically you had the procedure and then I'll tell the audience that typically with a gamma knife procedure, You do the treatment and then three months later, they'll do an MRI. And what the expected result would be was that the oftentimes at the like early three to six months after radio surgery, the tumor actually looks a little bit [00:37:00] bigger on the scan, but it's starting to be less enhancing with contrast.

[00:37:06] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And then by like a year it would still be there, but smaller. And then like, there's a, I show a, um, Example of the Mayo Clinic, uh, radio surgery, and they showed like a scan, even 7 years later, still shows something there, but it's much, much smaller and not enhancing with contrast. So, anyway, she had the radio surgery in November.

[00:37:29] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And [00:37:30] then I think she did a lot of things like back to back, like she had the radio surgery and then took like a seven hour, six hour road trip to go to the mastermind and was there and then traveled to Sedona and basically was going, going, going after this procedure. And then what happened, Christie?

[00:37:50] Christie Miller: Yeah, and I was going with permission from my doctor

[00:37:54] Dr. Katie Deming MD: yeah, yeah, no, no, yes, absolutely. She's not doing anything that's not recommended. I'm just saying that she was pushing herself a [00:38:00] little bit for given what she had just gone through, but absolutely you had permission from your doctors.

[00:38:05] Christie Miller: Yeah. I just want to say I did it with permission. I talked to Dr. Duma originally. I was like, Hey, can we do this surgery after the mastermind? He's like, no, this is stat. So I chose with his permission the day after surgery for my husband to drive me to Arizona to catch the last three hours of the mastermind.

[00:38:24] Christie Miller: And it wasn't. So I'm going to learn like I wasn't in a position to learn it was to be in [00:38:30] all the love and the power and the energy plus we had already booked a week long Airbnb in Sedona with another couple, Anna and Keith, Keith, who had sent me the crystals and I still wanted to go because Sedona is such a magical healing place and Dr.

[00:38:47] Christie Miller: Duma said, yes, absolutely. And so I went and I had a lot of rest time. I didn't go on a lot of the excursions that we had planned where I'm like, no, no, no. I think I just need to lay here in the backyard of the [00:39:00] Airbnb and just chill and a lot of journaling, a lot of being in silence and a whole lot of eating because I was on steroids.

[00:39:08] Christie Miller: And I told my husband, if you see a hole in the wall, It's because I ate the drywall. Like I had an insatiable appetite, which was, I want to say uncontrollable, but with mindset, I could have controlled it, but I just, whatever, I just let it keep going. And then I got back. I had my own virtual retreat. I went to a three day event here in town [00:39:30] and bam, two day.

[00:39:32] Christie Miller: So basically my year is done. It's early December. I'm not going to be working the rest of the year. I'm getting ready to go to Cabo San Lucas on vacation, and I get hit with COVID. And I remember being on zoom with you and you kind of saying, yeah, well, you know, you've been, you've been putting yourself out there.

[00:39:50] Christie Miller: You've been doing too much. And I remember you saying, all right, you have COVID. I really think you should do a 30 day water fast. [00:40:00] And my recollection of that was feeling so defeated. Like it was a punch to the guts. it would be interesting to see how long in that zoom conversation. It took me to be like, okay, game on, let's do it.

[00:40:14] Christie Miller: but you had already started fasting the day before and you were there to guide me. But when I heard 30 days, Here I am feeling so bad first time with COVID and it nailed me. I'm like, and now you want me to not eat for 30 days? [00:40:30] Like, what are you kidding? And I had done a six day water fast and I was used to doing 36 hour water fast regularly, but 30 days, no food.

[00:40:40] Christie Miller: I mean, hello.

[00:40:41] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Yeah. Well, I remember this. So what had happened was my mentor had said that, you know, a prolonged water fast, like 30 days would be an excellent way to eradicate cancer. And, but not everyone can do that. And [00:41:00] so when he said, I was, wow, like 30 days, like I didn't realize that.

[00:41:03] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And I was like, nothing like no minerals, no electrolytes, just water. And he said, yes, just water. And so the next day I was just like, well, if I'm going to ever recommend that to anyone, I've got to do, I've got to like, see how long I can go. Like, I wasn't planning to go 30 days,And so I started that next day, which was the day before I saw you. And I wasn't thinking about putting anyone on a water fast at that time. Cause I was literally just doing it [00:41:30] to see how long I could go and what the experience would be like. and then I was going to do a little bit more research as well.

[00:41:36] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Anyway, the next day I saw you and while I was seeing you, it was like she needs to do a water fast. And I don't, you know, my practice now is quite intuitive where I'll make a decision about what's right in the moment. And it's totally different from the algorithms of what we do in Western medicine where basically a person walks in and you just look them up and tell them they're doing these things.

[00:41:59] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And [00:42:00] so, and also because you know, What I'm doing for you is complimentary to your radio surgery, right? So you just have the radio surgery that I was looking at. Okay. What can I do that would compliment that? And so I just intuitively was like, I think we should do a water fast. And then I was like, well, if anyone can do it, you, Christie can do it.

[00:42:19] Dr. Katie Deming MD: She's like, I don't know. I didn't know of any other clients that I had who could do that, frankly. And so I remember your face when I said it, because I [00:42:30] wasn't You know, I didn't know what your response would be, but I remember you were like deflated. You were really like, as if I had said you had done something wrong, which I wasn't at all.

[00:42:39] Dr. Katie Deming MD: I was just like, if anyone can do this, you can do it. But the way I think it came out, because You had said, well, I have COVID. And I said, well, actually it's good to fast when you're sick. So like, let's start, you know, you could start now basically with the whole issue,you know, with being sick from the COVID.

[00:42:55] Dr. Katie Deming MD: So anyway, this kind of just started this way. [00:43:00] And, yeah, so then we were doing it together and both, you know, and I was researching and learning and Christie was researching and learning while we were doing it. Of course I had the. Supervision of my mentor, but, it, you know, it was new for me from a medical standpoint, so I wanted to make sure I was learning as much as I could as well, while we were being guided through this process.

[00:43:19] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And also I was experiencing it myself, which I'm going to. recommend that nobody fast while you're working. So I was fasting for six days while I was working, which is a terrible idea. So you need [00:43:30] to completely rest and do nothing. if you're doing a water fast. So Christy, why don't you tell us what your experience was like doing A lot prolonged water fast, and also we started, we talked about 30 days, but then, you know, basically I said, I said, you know, the full length would be 30 days, but I said, I know there's benefits to even getting to 10 days.

[00:43:52] Dr. Katie Deming MD: So, if we could do somewhere in there between. 10 and 30 days, that would be amazing. And but she had [00:44:00] this trip to Cabo that was going to, you couldn't have done the fast if you went on the original trip, right?

[00:44:05] Christie Miller: The original trip was already canceled because I already had COVID.

[00:44:08] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Oh, right.

[00:44:09] Christie Miller: I'd already canceled it. I do want to point out that I never felt like you said I did something wrong, but I did feel deflated when you said 30 day water fast, like that just hit me so hard. So What I always do is I look at baby steps and they set interim [00:44:30] goals.

[00:44:30] Christie Miller: And I knew that I had done a six day fast and I did it unsupervised. My other doctor had told me about one of her clients did a 30 day water fast and he came back and his bladder cancer was gone. And I was like, okay, that's cool. but she didn't give me any information. Like she just told me that and said, Hey, go, go fast.

[00:44:50] Christie Miller: This was earlier on like months before that. And so I made it to day six and then I was so dizzy and I just quit. I'm like, I don't think this could be safe [00:45:00] doing it completely unsupervised. So when you said 30 days, I'm like, okay, first let me be defeated for a little bit. I'm pretty sure I was crying. I think there were tears going down my face and I was like, all right, Miller, what do you do?

[00:45:11] Christie Miller: It's game on. Let's do this. And my first initial goal was make it to seven days. Because that's longer than I had gone before, then it was 10 days and by 10 days, you were still right there by my side coaching me not as a doctor, but as a coach giving [00:45:30] me moral support, I was taking 100 percent responsibility that this was not medical advice and you were there, you were my cheerleader, you were my co knowledge base.

[00:45:41] Christie Miller: You are constantly checking on me and I just felt so supportive that I got to seven days and I remember telling you, okay, I'm going for 10. And at one point you told me I could quit after 10. I'm like, I'll see how I feel on day 10. Day 10 came. I felt good. So I said, I'm going to go [00:46:00] for 14 and I will reconsider on day 14.

[00:46:03] Christie Miller: Got to 14, still feeling good. And then this is when I approached you and they said, I would like to break the fast on day 18 because number one, 17 is my angel spirit number that shows up a lot in my life telling me that I'm on the right path. So I want to go 17 full days and I want to break the fast on the 18th day because that will give me a week to refeed before I go to.

[00:46:27] Christie Miller: So I went to a 555 restaurant [00:46:30] on my 555th day of no alcohol, no sugar and no fried foods. And I just, I loved the coherence of that. I wanted to celebrate at 555 of my 555th day. And you were all for it. And you were like, yeah, you, you already got the benefits. And so it was like, I just went 17 days with no food.

[00:46:50] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Yeah, so you heard that right. Christie went 17 days with just water fasting. So I think one thing would be helpful. Christie to talk [00:47:00] about is what did you experience physically and kind of mentally within the first couple days? And then what did you experience like about the week mark? And, you know, kind of give us some landmarks in there.

[00:47:11] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And I know that Just from your journey, it was like,the first seven days were kind of like in a zone and then, and then, and then it seemed like to 10 and then there was like, and maybe some of it was like this mental piece of you had gotten to seven before. And that I had said that 10 was okay, because I feel like those memorable, [00:47:30] like, milestones in my mind, but why don't you tell us what, what it was like for you?

[00:47:34] Christie Miller: I really wish I had journaled all of this because some of it is just kind of faded in my memory, but there were definitely days that, okay, I'm hungry, but it's no big deal. I'm fine. As long as I'm getting enough water. I'm not going to die of hunger. People have gone, you know,

[00:47:54] Christie Miller: So I'm going to be fine as long as I have good water, which I was drinking and I remember some [00:48:00] time around day five or day six. It's really weak. All the mind tricks were playing on me. You're not going to make it. You had to quit at day six last time, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. All those gremlins in my head.

[00:48:16] Christie Miller: And so I remember laying on the couch and having to quiet the negativity and be like, this is so different. I have Dr. Katie by my side. I did it alone last time. I had no idea what I was doing. So it was like [00:48:30] day five or day six were really rough. And then day seven, I was feeling better. Of course I'm tired.

[00:48:35] Christie Miller: Walking up the stairs felt like I was running a marathon. and I don't remember if it was day 10 or 11, there was a period where I all of a sudden had such incredible mental clarity and energy, and it felt so good. And that was when I was telling you, Oh, I can keep going. I can keep going. We'll see what day 14 is like, but if I feel this good, I remember telling you I can go a full 30 days.

[00:48:59] Christie Miller: If [00:49:00] this continues and so it was kind of a rollercoaster of some days I felt really great other days I had so little energy and what I was doing which is so odd is I was scrolling Instagram reels like two three four hours a day for healthy whole food recipes I saved over 200 recipes and I don't know that was satisfying my desire to eat And I was planning how I was going to break the [00:49:30] fast

[00:49:30] Dr. Katie Deming MD: That is really funny actually that I remember that you came out with like so many new recipes. Every meal was like a new recipe. so I think it's helpful to hear for people and kind of like people just think it's going to be hard, but it's like once you get past these certain points, you start to feel different.

[00:49:50] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And I can just explain from my fast that it took me into my fourth day before I stopped feeling hungry. Most people it's usually the third day, but they [00:50:00] say also if you're more muscular, it can take longer because your body knows it can pull from the muscle. It can break down muscle and so it can make you feel bad for longer.

[00:50:08] Dr. Katie Deming MD: But basically for the first four days it was hard and I was just like brain fog and I was tired and I was like, Oh my God. And then I broke through and I felt not hungry. I just like literally was like, food was not. What I needed, like I really, it's a weird feeling to experience, but you just lose hunger.

[00:50:28] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And basically that happened for [00:50:30] me,on about day five. And then what happened though, is I just couldn't think because I wasn't getting,enough. nutrients to my brain. And so ultimately I was like, this is silly. I don't need to go further than this. This is just for me to see what it was like. And I do, but actually now I definitely want to do a prolonged fast.

[00:50:50] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And my biggest thing is just finding time outside of work and also caring for my children to be able to do that. But I absolutely want to do a 21 day fast. [00:51:00] So, anyway, and actually that's something I'm thinking about maybe to do as a group offer. That we do a fast together and I get someone, maybe we get like Lauren Lockman to help us as our guide, but we do it as like a, a group fast.

[00:51:15] Dr. Katie Deming MD: I think that that would be great because what people don't know is you can go to retreat centers to do fasting. Like Lauren Lockman was on the podcast in late February, early March talking about. the Tanglewood,wellness center. That [00:51:30] basically is the largest, um, water fasting center in the world. He's passed over 10, 000 people, but basically he can do remote supervision as well.

[00:51:38] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And so obviously if I was fasting too, I wouldn't want to be supervising people so we could get someone like that to help, but that would be so fun. Right. Cause I know you, after doing this, you actually would like to do another one.

[00:51:49] Christie Miller: I really would and what was really interesting about this fast is Being done with it and looking back and like you [00:52:00] said It can be really hard. I had an advantage that you didn't have. And that was my schedule was clear because I was supposed to be in Cabo. the day that you told me to do the fast, I started.

[00:52:12] Christie Miller: I don't remember if I started that night or if I started the next day. I was three or four days away from when I was supposed to be going to Cabo. So my first 10 days, I had nothing on my schedule. And so it was a lot of couch time. I wasn't even walking Winnie, my Labrador. I was just hanging out [00:52:30] and reading and it's, you know, I know so much more now about fasting than I did then.

[00:52:34] Christie Miller: Apparently you're not supposed to read, you're not supposed to watch TV. You're certainly not supposed to be scrolling Instagram and looking at food,not even supposed to be taking showers because that takes so much energy. so I didn't do it perfectly, but I still did it my way. And again, So much of it for me was I had the luxury of having a clear schedule, but also mindset, mindset, mindset, because if you don't have the [00:53:00] mindset, you're never going to get through the hard parts.

[00:53:04] Christie Miller: And when I had the brain fog, it didn't matter because I didn't have anything I was supposed to be doing anyway.

[00:53:09] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Well, and Christy. Handle this like you heard her that she was so deflated when I recommended this and then and then just like jumped into a 17 day water fast, which is just amazing. And just a testament to who you are as a person. Right? But so the. One thing [00:53:30] that even though you didn't journal, I, this, I was committed.

[00:53:34] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Like I said to Christy, if you want to do this, I will be available to you 24 seven. We will be like basically connected at the hip through our phone. And even though I knew Christmas was coming up and holidays and whatever, it was like, I was in this with Christy. And so I remember even like. Over Christmas Eve and Christmas day.

[00:53:52] Dr. Katie Deming MD: But Christie, every morning would give me, I should pull up one of these little messages. but basically it would [00:54:00] be like a champion sign or some emoji that's like with the symbol of winning. And like today, you know, I'm down this many pounds and I'm at day, you know, whatever, with a like celebration.

[00:54:12] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And every morning it was like, she was celebrating what she had accomplished already. And. I was witness to that, right? And then also, you know, the reflections and what she was feeling and she's like, I smell terrible, you know? And so there were all these things that she was [00:54:30] experiencing that she, you know, it was new, right?

[00:54:33] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And it's, and then also like that you really don't have the energy to shower. Um, so, and, and now like through, uh, speaking with Warren Lachman and learning more about fasting myself, it's like, I thought it was just enough that she was resting. I didn't know that actually like watching things would be fatiguing as well.

[00:54:53] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And so I've since learned that from Lauren Lockman, but basically we, we learned some of these things together [00:55:00] and I, you know, I'm okay to say, I didn't know everything I had supervision, but then there were certain things, you know, that I just didn't know because I didn't know. And so we were learning as we went and we were kind of adjoined,through our phones for that 17 day period.

[00:55:13] Dr. Katie Deming MD: But this experience, I think, was more than physical. So, I remember, after you finished that, and after you went and celebrated, it was like there was a shift. And I [00:55:30] just want you to talk to that.

[00:55:32] Christie Miller: Yeah. I think anytime we push ourselves out of our comfort zone, If we take the time to celebrate it and reflect and actually look back at what we've done, we really realize the power that we have and the power of belief, the power of knowing. And I really got to the point where I feel. Unstoppable. I feel indestructible.

[00:55:57] Christie Miller: Now that doesn't mean I'm going to go jump off a [00:56:00] skyscraper and tell myself I can fly. You know, I tried that when I was like three years old off the back of the couch and it did not work while I could not fly. but I just feel like if there is something that I put my mind to, nothing is going to stop me.

[00:56:14] Christie Miller: So I don't know if I told you this, but during the fast, there was one day where I was reading. So I would read about a chapter and then take a nap and read another chapter. And I remember Mark was on the couch next to me and I picked up my book and I didn't put my reading [00:56:30] glasses on and the book was crystal clear.

[00:56:33] Christie Miller: And I was like, Mark. I can read perfectly right now without my glasses. I had heard things like that can change with a fast. Unfortunately that wasn't permanent. Like, you know, within a couple of hours I needed my reading glasses again, but I just went to the eye doctor a couple of weeks ago and I no longer need a correction for distance.

[00:56:57] Christie Miller: Now, but correction wasn't that big [00:57:00] anyway, but my distance is 2020 perfect vision without any correction. And he was explaining that changes in glucose can actually do that and have a permanent effect.

[00:57:12] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Wow. You had not told me that. That is incredible. That's really incredible. Okay. Okay. So. Tell me though, about the shift , like just in terms of your, so you, the feeling that you had was I can do anything and that it [00:57:30] seemed to me, so I'm going to describe my experience from the outside and then you can explain what it was like for you.

[00:57:37] Dr. Katie Deming MD: But the way that I saw it was that. It was like this initial idea of the fast was like, Oh my God, are you kidding? Right? Like, are you kidding to like, okay, I got it. I'm in there. I'm in it. And then you were just in it and you were doing it. You were just like so focused.

[00:57:55] Dr. Katie Deming MD: It's not that you have such a conviction about what you're doing and the [00:58:00] power of what you're doing and you don't. gloss over anything. You're very intentional. I think the word that I want to use is intentional. So you have this like intention about you. And so you were in there and you were doing all the things.

[00:58:11] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And then when you finished, of course, there was that like, ah, that sigh of relief and that like celebration. But then like, honestly, it was almost like someone just like, Broke you open and like came out like smashing their fists like hey, I'm here like this is it [00:58:30] like I am Here to show the world who I am and it was like whoa.

[00:58:34] Dr. Katie Deming MD: What just happened.

[00:58:37] Christie Miller: Yeah, that's, that's how I recall it. And I think the difference is, and I talk about this a lot with my clients is, are you interested or are you committed? So I was committed to this water fast. There were no excuses. If you're just interested when it gets hard, you're going to quit whatever it is, trying to change your [00:59:00] diet, trying to start journaling, whatever it is.

[00:59:03] Christie Miller: If you're interested, it's not going to happen. I was committed to this with also the awareness that you and I talked about. If my body in no uncertain terms says stop, we are stopping immediately. And so it was just that, that sense of, Oh, wow, I have arrived, I am here and I am supposed to be playing such a bigger game [00:59:30] in life.

[00:59:31] Christie Miller: And what doors are now going to open for me? It's as if the heavens and the angels were singing, saying, okay, let me. introduce you to Christy Miller 2. 0, 4. 0, 5. 0. I don't know which version of me this is, but it's just, it's such an empowered person because once again, I have proven that I can go from something really scary and feeling [01:00:00] deflated.

[01:00:00] Christie Miller: To switching very quickly. Okay. Game on. And my approach is always default to victory. All right. Let me see myself at the finish line. Now, how do we get there? Who needs to be on my team to support me? And you were the star player on my team. I was the captain and I'm in charge, but you were the one that was like, Go Christy go.

[01:00:24] Christie Miller: How are you doing? Let's look at this. Let's look at that. And I honestly don't think I would have made it [01:00:30] 17 days without you.

[01:00:31] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Oh That's really sweet to hear you know in in this kind of experience for me as, you know, being, guiding you through this is that I knew I had to like hold the vision as much as you held it, and I had to see it already happened. And so I knew that when I spoke to you, it needed to Put wind under your [01:01:00] sails.

[01:01:00] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Like I couldn't say anything unless like there was something that we needed to address medically and we were going to stop. That'd be fine. But as long as everything was going okay, I had to, I had a role to play, like not only to be there to guide you, but then to also, Be your biggest cheerleader. And that's what I like.

[01:01:20] Dr. Katie Deming MD: I felt like your cheerleader and your guide, but what a privilege to experience that together. And like, I think that when I do a water fast, Christie [01:01:30] and I are going to do it together. So,It was a powerful experience for me as your doctor. You know, I, I really feel privileged to have had that experience with you.

[01:01:41] Christie Miller: Yeah, it was so special to me too. I mean, the whole thing. And I know, I think it was somewhere around day nine that you got concerned. So you checked in with your mentor,cause you're like, you woke up in the middle of the night or something, if I recall correctly. And you and so you were bringing in reinforcements and I'm over here [01:02:00] going, no, I, I feel good.

[01:02:02] Christie Miller: I got it. I'll let you know. because I had broken a fast earlier when I was going for seven days and at day six, I'm like, I can't, I I'm done. but it was just, it was just, It was so reassuring. And I think this is something that all the listeners should take away. That support is key. Life is a team sport.

[01:02:21] Christie Miller: We are not meant to do this individually. And I know some people may be sitting here thinking, Oh, well, yeah, it was easy for Christie because she [01:02:30] cleared her schedule and she has this and she has that. The thing is every single person can clear their schedule. It may be harder for you to clear your schedule.

[01:02:38] Christie Miller: Uh, if I hadn't. Um, if I had already had a vacation planned, it would have been harder for me, but if something is important enough and we are fully committed, we will leap over every obstacle that is in our way, every single hurdle, and we will make it happen. We all have that power. It's about tapping into our innate power.

[01:02:59] Christie Miller: [01:03:00] Believing in ourselves and believing in our abilities. And when you have that belief and you do the visualizations and the affirmations and you grab proof, you will get to the point where you have such a sense of knowing, I know this is part of my story and cancer is not the end of

[01:03:19] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Absolutely. So we should get to your results. So we did that in December together and then in January you went to Cabo had your [01:03:30] vacation and then at the end of February she had her post treatment scan and actually it was a little bit later so it would have been at three months but I think was at four months.

[01:03:41] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Is that right? Because it was December, January, February. Yeah. So it was like three and a half months basically. And she got the scan and she said, well, why don't you tell us what the doctor said? And you'll just tell them like you told me. but I didn't see the scans at this time when she first got the results.

[01:03:58] Christie Miller: Yeah, it was, I was supposed to meet [01:04:00] on Zoom with the doctor and that was only because I had just driven down to Newport Beach, you know, 30 minutes away the day before for the scan. And then I was supposed to go back to his office on Friday. And I was like, you know what, can we just do this on zoom? because in my mind, I already knew what the results were going to be.

[01:04:17] Christie Miller: I had seen it. I had visualized it. I had felt it. I knew what the results were going to be again, not knowing they were atypical. And,so my husband was here, we were all dialed into zoom and the doctor's zoom. Didn't work, [01:04:30] which was unfortunate. So we did this session on the phone. I had it on speakerphone so my husband could hear me.

[01:04:37] Christie Miller: And so I was taking notes really quickly. And basically the gist of it was this was a complete win. There are no remnant remnants. There is nothing there. And that this isn't normal or this is atypical. I would have to pull my notes out to see his exact language, but I remember taking a picture of my notes and sending it [01:05:00] to you and saying like, we did this or we won or, you know, team win or something like that.

[01:05:06] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Yeah. And so I thought, well, amazing. She's had a good response on our MRI and maybe the tumor, you know, it, even if it looks bigger, there's decreased contrast and contrast enhancement, whatever, you know, I'm thinking it's a typical radio surgery. And so, but I said to Christy, I said, I really want to see those scans.

[01:05:26] Dr. Katie Deming MD: So it'd be really helpful if you could get me them. [01:05:30] And so she basically took about a month. I'm not sure there was some logistical issues and whatever. And so at the end of February, it was actually beginning, no, it was the end of March that I got. So the scan was at the end of February, but I didn't even get it until like the first week of April.

[01:05:44] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And basically I open up the scan and. I'm looking for the cavity or the tumor. I'm like, where, where was this? I'm not seeing anything and not even like you would [01:06:00] normally expect necrosis, which is dead tissue after radiosurgery, but I didn't see that. I was like, I don't even see where there was a tumor.

[01:06:08] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And so I,pulled up the scan. From before the radio surgery, so Gamma Knife is like radio surgery is the name of what Gamma Knife is. Gamma Knife is just one way that you can give radio surgery. So I'm using those interchangeable, but basically with radio surgery. you'd expect to see the [01:06:30] tumor, you know, still present.

[01:06:31] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And so anyway, so I found where the tumor was on the pretreatment scan. And then I basically, it took me because I didn't have the normal software that I would have if I was working in a radiology department to like pull these up side by side and stuff. But I was like scrolling and scheme capturing and making sure anatomically I was at the same level.

[01:06:49] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And basically I'm like, this is, there is nothing here, Christy. Like what is going on? This is not normal. This is not a normal result. And then I looked at the report and [01:07:00] the report says no, you know, basically empty cavity. Five millimeters is the size of the cavity, like no enhancement, no necrosis, no tumor.

[01:07:12] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And if you look at radio surgery results, there's always a two, there's always something there like scarring even years later. And at six months after radio surgery, according to the Mayo clinics, like diagram or, you know, photo, I guess, illustration of what a normal radio surgery result would [01:07:30] look like their scan at six months.

[01:07:32] Dr. Katie Deming MD: So that's even longer after ours. We would have had, we've had a faster result than that. At the six month scan, the tumor is bigger, but just a little bit less active with contrast, but very clear. This scan had nothing in it. It's totally clean, just a cavity and barely that you have to really look to see that there was a cavity there because it just looks like the folds in the brain.

[01:07:54] Dr. Katie Deming MD: So. I sent you a text as being like, wow, this is not normal. This is [01:08:00] like a radical remission. And the reason why I called it a radical remission is a radical remission is achieving a result that you would not expect with a given treatment and this. result that she got was not what you would expect with that treatment is totally atypical.

[01:08:18] Dr. Katie Deming MD: And so I said that to her and tell me what was it like when you got my response? Because I had, you know, it was the neurosurgeon, [01:08:30] I guess, is like, you know, so limited on the phone. And also he didn't really go into whether this was expected or not.

[01:08:36] Christie Miller: Yeah,well, he had told me it wasn't normal, but even then, like, okay, whatever. Is it just not normal because he's such an incredible doctor or, you know, what is it? And your excitement was palpable. Seeing the words radical remission miracle, I think you said something about being a manifesting queen or something along those lines.

[01:08:57] Christie Miller: Also, at first I was like, [01:09:00] well, yeah, I'm Christy Miller. And then it was about 40, 24 to 48 hours later that I was talking to a dear friend of mine who had cured her cancer holistically. And I was on zoom with her and I said, why Me and I'm getting emotional right now. I never said, why me with the breast guest?

[01:09:23] Christie Miller: I never said why me with the brain guest, but then this declaration of a [01:09:30] radical remission miracle, it had me question myself, why me? Who am I to receive this life changing gift? Like it's still to this day, it's, it's unfathomable. It's, it's, it's unexplainable. And as I was first describing it, I was saying it's heavy, but not from a heavy, negative heavy.

[01:09:57] Christie Miller: I think what it comes with [01:10:00] is. Such responsibility that I know that I'm not playing a big enough game in life. Sure. I'm a business coach and I talk about mindset and I'm a certified mindset coach, but I've been doing all these other things and the irony is not lost on me. Brain cancer. Mindset coach. And I am supposed to be leading with mindset coaching, whether it's mindset, if you want a different job mindset, if [01:10:30] you want to build your business mindset, if you want to be happier mindset, if you want a deeper relationship, I need to be leading, I need to be forward facing of mindset, mindset, mindset.

[01:10:41] Christie Miller: That was where it comes with such a big responsibility. And I don't want to meet my maker at the end of my life in maybe five more decades and say, Oh, by the way, thanks for the radical remission miracle. I didn't really use that gift. And so that's why I say it felt heavy and it comes with such a [01:11:00] sense of responsibility and I will not waste this gift.

[01:11:03] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Wow, that's so beautiful because I think that this is why you manifest it because you can have an appreciation and use it as an opening for, like, participating. In the cycle of reciprocity. So it's like you, you really, because you appreciate what's been [01:11:30] given to you through this opportunity, you're going to use it then to expand yourself and serve in a bigger way.

[01:11:37] Dr. Katie Deming MD: I love that. I think that that's so beautiful. And that is the way the universe works. When we appreciate we're given more. And when we put out, we're given more. It's that, it's that.Like being in,relationship with everything. And so Christie's demonstrating her relationship with this radical remission now is creating something new and even bigger, which is so [01:12:00] beautiful.

[01:12:00] Christie Miller: Yeah. And we're, we are moving quickly. We released a mindset persona quiz yesterday. I have a mindset workshop coming up in a couple of weeks. I'm releasing a new course in about three months. That is a hundred percent mindset. And I, I'm not taking this lightly. I'm like, okay, I get it. And it's like, oh, I don't want another boulder dropped on my head.

[01:12:21] Christie Miller: I, you know, sometimes you get the pebble and you recognize it. then it's a bigger rock. And then if you're not listening, God [01:12:30] universe, spirit will drop a boulder on you. I had two boulders. I had the breast guests, and apparently I learned a lot of the lessons, but I did not learn them all. So I had to have the boulder dropped on my end.

[01:12:43] Christie Miller: I get it. Okay. I'm done. No more boulders. We're good. I'm, I'm moving down the path that this was all given to me to guide me to and lead me to. And I have to just push through the fears of, you know, who am I to do this? Well, I'm [01:13:00] Christy Miller and I was put on this planet to teach people how to win, whatever that means to them.

[01:13:05] Dr. Katie Deming MD: I love it. Well, and now everyone understands why I am deeply grateful for the opportunity to be on team Christie Miller, the dream team. So thank you so much, Christie, for being here. If people want to find you, how can they find you?

[01:13:22] Christie Miller: Sure. Right now I am on Coach. I'm on Instagram at Coach Christie Miller. There is no mindset website [01:13:30] That'll come later. And then if anyone wants to take our mindset quiz, they can go to christie miller.com/mindset and it will identify where you are on the mindset pathway. Give you a report that talks about the beliefs you may have, the pitfalls, and also deliver a very powerful exercise specific for that stop on the mindset pathway.

[01:13:54] Christie Miller: And the thing about our mindsets is we can start at a completely fixed [01:14:00] mindset that's like walked in a safe and through powerful exercises, we can get to the point where I am now, where I believe that I have unlimited possibilities and the world is just. My playground and I can make anything out of it that I want.

[01:14:16] Christie Miller: And I grew up with a very fixed and very scarcity minded mindset. And so it's, it's possible for everyone. It's just like building a muscle

[01:14:24] Dr. Katie Deming MD: That is beautiful.

[01:14:25] Dr. Katie Deming MD: and thank you for being on my winning team. I couldn't have done this without you.

[01:14:29] Dr. Katie Deming MD: [01:14:30] It's my privilege. so Christy, I would like to link the photos to your MRI below in the podcast notes, is that okay with you?

[01:14:38] Christie Miller: Oh, a hundred percent, a hundred percent.

[01:14:40] Dr. Katie Deming MD: So we are going to have those images so you can see what we're talking about the result that she got.

[01:14:45] Dr. Katie Deming MD: It has the pre treatment MRI as well as the post treatment MRI. So

[01:14:51] Christie Miller: Yeah, I wrote a blog about the brain guest and that day and it has all of the photos. It has the intention circle video. [01:15:00] It really shows the progression of that day. And I think it's just so powerful.

[01:15:05] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Perfect. Well, we'll include that too. Thank you so much, Christy, for being here. It was truly a pleasure to have you on my podcast. And I know my audience are going to enjoy getting to know you.

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