Episode 113 | How This App Reveals What Your Body Is Hiding About Healing with Amy and Andrey Derevyanko, Creators of Root Cause

[00:00:00] Dr. Katie Deming MD: Hello everyone. I'm Dr. Katie Deming, and this is The Born to Heal podcast where we discuss holistic healing through lifestyle, nutrition, emotional balance, and spiritual alignment. And before we jump into today's guest, I wanna ask you a favor. If you've received value from this podcast, please leave a review so others can see why they would wanna tune in.My goal is to reach as many people as possible to help. Who are seeking health and healing in the modern world. Thank you in advance for your help. I am beyond grateful to my listeners, but I need your help in getting the word out. So thank you so much. And. I am actually, I don't say this often that I'm really excited about an episode because I feel like everyone says that.

They're always, oh, I'm so excited to talk to this guest. So I, I typically don't say that, but I actually was really excited to meet with Amy and Andre today because they have an app that they've developed that fits right square in the world of where [00:01:00] you guys know I live, which is emotional healing related to illness.

And I've been using their app for. I don't know, I guess like a month I've had it that I've been playing around with it and I love it and I want you guys to know all about it. And I also want you guys to know about them because I think that they have a pretty powerful story as to why they're bringing this into the world.

So with that, I would love to welcome Amy and Andre to the show. Thank you for being here.

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: Thank you, Katie. Thank you for that wonderful introduction.

Yes,

Dr. Katie Deming MD: You are welcome.

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: excited to be here.

Dr. Katie Deming MD: And you guys are tuning in from Bali, is that right?

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: Yeah. We're in Bali, uh, we're in ud. And, yeah, this, I, I, there's a lot of people and places here that are also very, very resonant with what I think you and your listeners talk about.

Yeah.

Dr. Katie Deming MD: Wonderful. I love it. I'm excited for that. So let's just dive in. What is this app? What app have you guys developed and what does it do?

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: so the [00:02:00] app is called Root Cause, and it is, I believe it's the first app of its kind.~ Uh, ~because it's, it's actually very difficult to publish anything like this on the conventional,~ uh,~ you know, app stores. And the app uses German new medicine, which we'll, we'll talk about German new medicine principles to essentially.

Find connections between whatever physical symptoms are manifesting,~ uh,~ from common cold to, you know, to cancer,~ uh,~ anything. And using this data of knowledge that it's out there on Germany medicine and,~ uh,~ you know, asking you personal questions. It finds the causes of what is at the. At the bottom of this, of the symptom because it's never just the symptom, is it?

There's, it's always your body trying to tell you something. So we're helping [00:03:00] people uncover that. And ~uh, ~we say it's grounded in Germany medicine. It's not uniquely just journey Germany medicine. There's other things going on there as well. ~Um, ~ A common person can use it without any, you don't need to know, you know, what, uh, what your medicine is or anything like that.

We just help you connect. A lot of people go, wow, I have no idea that somehow this what I'm going through, you know, with my husband or with my job or this, or maybe it's death in the family, is actually affecting me in that way. And so what this serves as sometimes is, is like a paradigm shift. In terms of how people see their health, the world, ourselves, you know who they are, this mind body connection, you know, people realize they're, they're not just this physical body.

~Um, ~ and so there's a lot there. And one thing that I, we're really trying to unroll. A whole bunch of features before this podcast so we can talk about [00:04:00] it and you can play around with it, but unfortunately we were not able to. ~Uh, ~but it's, it is about to get a whole lot cooler where we're integrating,~ uh,~ a journal feature in there as well where you can just talk about your health and you can talk about kind of like a health journal or diary.

And the app will actually look at your entries and, and see patterns in them. So that's gonna be really, really cool also, and

Dr. Katie Deming MD: I love it,

so

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: a good use of ai. Yeah.

Dr. Katie Deming MD: no, absolutely. You know, AI is only as good as the consciousness of the humans who are programming it, right? And what the intention is behind it. But, you know, I think for my listeners who don't know what German Newed. It'll be helpful to explain that. So this app, and just, I'm gonna give my, you know, understanding and I'm not a German new medicine practitioner, and sometimes actually I get kind of roasted out there because I'm even mentioning German new medicine.

But then I don't. I don't practice it thoroughly, but [00:05:00] the truth is I think they should be happy that a medical doctor is even saying German new medicine. Right. So it's like, I mean, ple like, why are you getting mad at me? Because I'm not like totally down the rabbit hole of German new medicine, but I digress.

German new medicine is one model for, ~um. ~Explaining the relationship between, between physical illness like cancer and my audience's case, and an emotional trauma or shocking emotional event that happens in their lives. And for me, German new medicine has been not like the end all be all, where you're like, okay, that's it.

And that's the only thing we're gonna do. It's like, no, if we're looking holistically at what's making us sick or what's. You know, keeping us from being, well, we wanna look at the emotional aspect of it, and also people are gonna do a whole bunch of physical things too. And so in my practice it is really holistic.

So I'm doing all the things, but the emotional work is part of it. And I love the German new medicine framework because [00:06:00] it, many of my patients over the years I've seen thousands of patients,~ um,~ they think that their body has failed them. And that they feel forsaken by their body and they've lost trust.

And for me as a physician, like you just have to study the eye for like a day to just realize the miracle of this human body and. So I've always had that like sadness when people don't trust their bodies. And what I love about German new medicine is when I am with a client and we go through, okay, what could this be related to emotionally?

I. They become like so grateful to their body. Like, oh, my body was just trying to protect me. And of course, you know, physical illness is a manifestation of me not seeing, you know, like me. Not healing fully that that illness can be an example of that or, or the different parts of the process of [00:07:00] the healing.

And I think that it, so anyway, I wanna say that as a plug is that I use German new medicine in my practice because I feel like it is empowering. It's empowering information and so you guys have developed an app that takes German new medicine and puts it in the phone. So like today when I was like, okay, I've got this left knee pain, and I'm like, you guys can stop me.

But I figure I'm kind of, I'm like a fan. So I, I just wanted people to know how important I think this information is and how important this app is. But, so I have left knee pain and I've had that for, I don't know, as long as I can like. At least three years and I go to the chiropractor. I was just figuring it's related to like one of my muscles is tight and I do work out a lot.

And so like I know I'm not balanced, you know, very well in my body from my prior athletics. And so I would work with chiropractor and he helps me, but I was like, you know, with your app, normally I would pick [00:08:00] up for a patient, but I didn't have a patient today that I was. You know, seeing, I was getting ready for this interview, so I'm like, okay, well, I mean, I do have knee pain.

I'm like, I, I didn't think it was emotional, but let me just like take a look. As I was going through it, I'm like, oh my gosh, I see what the knee pain is related to it. I didn't even see it and this is what I do. So your app just helped me realize that an emotional trauma that I haven't talked about on this podcast, but when my mom died, it was very traumatic, some of the events that happened.

~Um, ~and so anyway, I realized that the left knee pain was. Related to that event, the shock of it and the unresolved,~ um,~ feeling supported. So thank you.

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: Wow.

Dr. Katie Deming MD: Thank you because, and this is the thing, you guys don't, you don't need to know anything about German new medicine. You just need to know what's going on in your life and what are your physical symptoms.

If you know those two things, you put them into this app [00:09:00] and then it, I feel like I'm a commercial for you guys. It's so funny, but I'm like, but you're like, don't stop. But, so I. ~Um, ~you just, all you need to know is about your life, like what's happening in your life, what emotional trauma have you experienced, and you know, then what your physical pain is, and you put it in.

You guys ask the questions, like you walk someone through exactly the questions to get the information that you need so there's no efforting on the part of the person who would use it. That's what I love about it, is that I could say to any of my clients, pick up this app. See, you know, just put your stuff in and see, you know, what it, it brings up.

Because, you know, a lot of my clients, they're doing this on the internet already. They're searching like, what's the spiritual meaning of this? What's Germany medicine say about that? And you have,~ um,~ organized it. And I, I really think you've done a good job.

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: Yeah. She

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: was doing a lot of that.

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: Yeah.

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: Lot, lot of looking things up, friend.

And ~uh, ~and I solved my wife's problem.

Oh, it wasn't a problem. Well, but a problem like,~ uh,~ you [00:10:00] know, made it, made

it easier.

And,~ um,~ one thing. Sometimes. So I just wanted to speak to the whole of what you were saying about German new medicine, but then in the context of like larger holistic practices.

So even people who are like, there aren't so many like. Legitimate German new medicine practitioners right now, but those who are doing it, like wow, amazing. It takes a lot of,~ um,~ a lot of time and research and dedication in order to really be like 100% grounded in that,~ um,~ in that practice. But even when you identify what it is.

There. It doesn't necessarily resolve it. Sometimes it can, sometimes just seeing it can be the aha moment that like clicks in your brain and like, and resolves the, the conflict and sends you into healing or fully resolves it. But sometimes it requires. Other, you know, it's like you might identify what the issue is, but that doesn't necessarily put your subconscious to rest.

So that's [00:11:00] when you bring in all these other practices that can be, you know, helpful. And so something like when people go on diets, whether it's like veganism or carnivore or whatever, sometimes it's just like eliminating some of the tracks. So it's like the action itself can create the healing. It doesn't necessarily have to be like whatever it is that's being done, it's just, it's like bypassing.

So. I think it's, it's really a creative art, like the art of healing because each person is unique with unique understandings and circumstances, and then how we approach that. So, I mean, I am fully in agreement with you that like we need to approach it holistically. Even if we have the framework of German new medicine, it's like, then how do we, that's, that's usually the question that comes up, like in my Facebook groups and whatnot.

It's like, okay, well I figured this out, but how do I. How do I support the healing of it? And so

Dr. Katie Deming MD: Yeah.

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: yeah, knowing is the first step.

Dr. Katie Deming MD: Exactly aware. And that's what I, that's what I always say too. So, and when [00:12:00] this comes up then I, you know, a lot of my clients will look to see, you know, if there is a reputable German new medicine practitioner, and you're right there, there's a shortage. There's not a lot of them that are spot on.

I've seen, you know, it's just like any other practice, right? You've got people, but it's,~ um,~ it's. It is if, if you're intrigued by it, you can always see a German new medicine practitioner and go through the whole process and the, the rea Oh, go ahead.

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: yeah, we just wanna point out we are not,~ uh,~ trying to be a dedicated, you know, German new

Dr. Katie Deming MD: Oh yeah.

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: So yeah.

Dr. Katie Deming MD: No, but so

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: That's not what the app app is for. It's more of like a bridge to help people understand that what you were saying, that actually our bodies are in service and are healing themselves and that nothing failed.

~Um,~

Dr. Katie Deming MD: Yeah, but, so this is the thing. I just wanna say this to you guys. How, how old is this app?

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: It's a few months. Yeah.

Dr. Katie Deming MD: Few months. [00:13:00] Okay. So I wanna say something to you guys, 'cause I know, you know, there's gonna be the people who are gonna say, oh, you know, they're trying to take away, you know, people who are, you know, really seeking true German new medicine. Just like I get the hate, I get you guys, I get hate on my videos about, I'm like just saying, I'm like, I think German new medicine has validity.

And then it's like, I get crucified because I'm not. Like a certified practitioner or something for you guys, you're gonna get that pushback from people whenever you put something into the world that there's value and it takes, it gets attention. There's gonna be people who say that. And so you're, you know, obviously developing this app, this comes from a good place of wanting to help more people and make this information accessible so that they don't have to do, like Amy was having to do in search in all these different places, which is the.

The standard right now, so you're condensing and putting together legitimate German new medicine information so then people can learn. And if they wanna know more, frankly [00:14:00] you're helping German new medicine. So I think just understanding that you're gonna get that pushback from people, but that's not, those aren't the people you're trying to reach.

Right? The people who are doing really good work are actually excited about people like you. Bringing this into kind of a more mainstream. So I just wanna say that, 'cause I, I got the haters too, and I'm like, it's okay. You can hate, you know, I'm like, I know where I'm coming from and what I'm doing in the world, so it's fine.

~Um, ~so anyway, I just wanna say that, that like, you know, you're, you're doing something that is,~ um,~ making a difference. But tell me. What is your story like? How did you come up with this idea? It must have been born out of, you were saying that you had been searching and looking, tell us the story that led to you, you know, being called to make this app for other people.

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: Well, the, the app came to be as,~ uh,~ because of my dear wife who,~ uh,~ who was using GNM for a few years now, and then they, maybe you wanna talk a little bit about the story?

Yeah, so [00:15:00] I've been really interested in alternative health for many years, since, ~uh. ~Probably about 2015, but it wasn't until 2022. I,~ um,~ I'd actually gotten very deep into all of the pandemic ~COVID vaccine stuff.~

And,~ um, ~I had a Instagram page where I was sharing people's stories about vaccine injury. ~Um, ~and because I had 20,000 followers. ~Um, ~I'd actually gotten what I thought was dengue fever. ~Um, ~we were living in Mexico at the time and so I just posted on there. I have dengue fever. Anybody have any suggestions?

And my 20,000 followers are very open-minded. ~Um, ~you know, they were on the other side of sort of the pandemic and one of my followers responded, you don't have dengue. Check out German new medicine. And I was very intrigued by that. ~Um, I'd also ~~been turned onto like the no virus theory and terrain theory.~

~Um, ~so I was open to it and when I looked into it,~ uh,~ I [00:16:00] saw that dengue was related to, well, the, the symptoms that are presenting as what we call dengue, like the, the fever and the, the body rash, it can be an extreme separation conflict, and. I had just lost my cat for four days. I was in a absolute state, like running around all of the beach, trying to find her every morning, 4:00 AM out there.

And, uh, when she returned on the fourth day, that was when, shortly after that, that's when the intense fever, bone aching and ~um, ~um, rash developed. And I was like, wow. There's something here. And that was, that was the moment. And I was like, I am going to try and learn everything that I can about this. And I just started to see it everywhere.

It was like I was looking at all my own past history, my mom's history, Andre's history. It was like, it was just felt like fireworks were [00:17:00] going off. And I was like, we need to share this. But of course, as you know, it's quite a big paradigm shift from, ~um. ~Allopathic medicine. And so I often get really excited about things and I just start telling people and they're like, what is, what is this woman going on about?

Is she crazy? So I very quickly realized I had to be very. Conscious of the way that I talked about it, but I still like if there was a smallest opening, Andre knows, like if somebody is interested in hearing, I will just

and my

friends know as well. Yeah. So I think this was part of the reason why Andre was like, well, my wife is so passionate about this.

And then I think also over the years you saw how.

Important. It can be. I, I really saw how it affected Amy for the better. You know, I'm on a spiritual path as well. And for me, the big, the big thing always comes down to beliefs.

Dr. Katie Deming MD: Mm-hmm.

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: It's, we all have a whole bunch of beliefs about ourselves, the world, our health, everything [00:18:00] in between, and we're all unique.

So the profile of these beliefs is always. It's always unique. So the things that hurt us are also unique. What's, what's another thing for me? I don't, I don't, I don't wanna get some why, why something is, uh, uncomfortable for another person could be the worst suffering imaginable. So for Amy, I always, I always knew that.

Health is one of those things where she can get completely spun out over a mosquito bite. She can get completely calm in other situations where, you know, I would be stressed, but when it's health related, there is almost, well, I always saw as just kind of an irrational thing. Something that I just do not understand.

And I saw the tremendous effect this new framework is having on Amy's thinking and her relationship with these things where. You know, she gets some, she gets bitten by, by something we, you know, we spent last five years in tropical climate. So that, that happens a lot. ~Um, ~she no longer goes into a tailspin.

She's just like, okay, well this is great. And then, [00:19:00] wow, the, the day is saved by German new medicine over and over and over again. ~Um, ~ so I saw that and I saw that really this is something truly amazing because it's able to unwind a whole bunch of this stored. Blockages, you know, these distort beliefs about what the body should be doing.

And uh, and it was having just such a profound effect on, well, one, Amy's health a hundred percent, but also just in her psyche and her mental wellbeing. And, you know, ultimately as a tool, Germany medicine is a tool just like AI is a tool, right? It's not, it's nothing more and more than that. And it's how we use these tools that, That, that makes a difference. And I think the highest application of any tool is to, you know, is the ultimate, right? It's, you know, enlightenment or whatever you wanna call it. Uh, that's kind of how I see it. And this is a tool to, ~uh, ~really help people overcome a lot of. [00:20:00] Beliefs around health and beliefs around emotions and body being separate.

And so there's a lot of things there with separation that I, I believe this, this, this, this app and this approach can, can really be a paradigm shift. And just seeing how things are actually connected, which will then later on can result in so many other shifts, you know? So that could be just only the first one.

So I see it as something much larger,~ uh,~ than just being about health, because I think it's a very holistic way of seeing the world. You know, first you start seeing health, then maybe the next thing you start seeing something else. You know, you start seeing like you start having a better. Relationship with emotions and then your energies subsequently, right?

You started seeing that as well. But in Amy's case, she was spending so much time looking things up. She had this pile of books and PDF documents and all those things. ~Uh, ~Uh, and so I thought, well, okay, there's these new [00:21:00] technologies out there that can really, really make it better, and she's really good at researching stuff.

But some other people aren't and they don't like it. Yeah. So for them, like very few people can research stuff as much as she can or, you know, be able to afford,~ uh,~ somebody super specialized or even be able to find them. So there's a lot of things that need to happen before somebody actually emerges, you know, zeroes in on Germany medicine for this tool to actually be used effectively, whereas.

I thought, okay, maybe we can make something that will help a large amount of people,~ uh,~ without having to do all those things and

Dr. Katie Deming MD: it accessible.

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: Yeah. Kind of how you, you saw it with your, you know, with your knee. ~Um, ~it's very, very easy. You don't need to understand, you don't need to understand how electricity works.

You turn on the light bulb, right.

Dr. Katie Deming MD: Exactly. Yeah. No, I agree. And I love how [00:22:00] you said you know, that you see this as something bigger and bringing wholeness back and you know, you didn't say it, you said enlightenment, but basically. German new medicine or, or true healing to the root cause is a, um. Path to awakening.

Speaker 6: A hundred percent.

Dr. Katie Deming MD: so that, that's the work that I do too.

Like cancer is an opening, a crack for an awakening. And that's why I do water fasting is 'cause the real healing is on a soul level. It's not physical. And when you heal on a soul level, the physical stuff follows. And German new medicine is like a, a way to go back to see, okay, inside what's actually happening, to know yourself.

And as you get to know yourself better, this is the path to awakening. So I, I love that I'm on, I we are,~ um,~ definitely on the same team wanting the same things in the world because when people. Awakened to themselves, they take their [00:23:00] power back, and this is how you create two truly free and sovereign human beings.

So,

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: And to be truly free, we have to really. Understand and let go of any aversions to our emotions. And as a society, we're always pro programmed to not have emotions. This is a bad emotion. This is a good emotion. You know, you shouldn't be sad, you know, you shouldn't be angry, you shouldn't, so, but you are angry, so what to do?

Right? Create more anger because you are angry. Well then if that energy cannot be expressed, it has to go somewhere. And it just goes in the body.

Speaker: Yeah.

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: And it, different people, you know, it's expressed in different ways. ~Uh, ~Amy's so sensitive, for example, you know, her body is so sensitive. So it's just like the slightest thing can just immediately have a, have an effect in the body, whereas it's, my body is a bit more, you know, it's, it's, it's less sensitive.

So I have to [00:24:00] find. Traces of these sort of repressed patterns sometimes in other ways, right? Which are not always health related. ~Um, ~so we, it's, it's, it is a tool in a, in a tool set. And I think combined with a, with a, with a good, you know, somatic practice or, you know, like meditation,~ uh,~ good therapy,~ uh,~ all, all those things, it could just serve wonders.

But this is just really nice because our body is, this is something we know. The most, you know, out of all these other things in this world, right? We have this body and, and we just, we can learn from it so much more than we are currently. We just notice how it feels. And this can be a, a, a, an a door opening into all these other deeper dimensions.

Dr. Katie Deming MD: Yeah,

and so many people are sick. I mean, in the US it's like one in two people get cancer in their lifetime now, like people are sick, so you know. If you're dealing with illness, why would you [00:25:00] not? Like, of course, do whatever, like if you wanna do standard of care, do all the things, but why would you also not be interested in seeing how emotions and, you know, trauma in your life may be related?

Because if you miss that and you do all these other treatments, you may miss the reason why you're sick. And also that reason for getting to know yourself better. Like I, I really believe the illness. You know, any cha challenge that shows up in her life, and I think illness falls into that category. But like you explained, Andre, your body is less sensitive.

So for you, your lessons may come in in other, you know, you have different kind of crises in your life than someone like Amy. But those of my listeners, you know, you guys are here, most of you because either you wanna stay healthy or you want to get well. This is one tool that you guys have in your toolbox, along with everything else, why not use it as a way to see what it, the connection might be?

Speaker 6: A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Yeah. [00:26:00]

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: And one other thing I just wanted to,~ um,~ throw in there about my experience with German new medicine was it really took away the fear component. And fear is the mind killer. Fear is the thing that really. Creates. So it's, it's so much resistance. So like the body cannot relax to go into the, like, healing space.

So I think especially for cancer patients, like recognizing that it's not like this death sentence is so huge. And yeah, I mean, I, I definitely think like the biggest, ~um, ~the biggest application is for like. The reframing of cancer. ~Um, ~and also to the, like you were saying, how your patients really need to rest.

And that was something that I realized too. It's like I had never given my body the actual rest that it needed in order to fully complete [00:27:00] its healing. And so now that I know this, it's like if something comes up, I will just rest. I'm not gonna power through it. I'm going to. Take the time and really nourish myself.

Dr. Katie Deming MD: ~Yeah, no. Well,~ your description of the fear and this alleviating fear, that's a hundred percent what I see. So people see how their body is trying to protect them. They trust their body, and so then the fear goes away because the fear was created by thinking you can't trust your body, which is the story.

Of Western medicine. And I say that with all due respect. I practiced that way for 20 years. So I'm not like, I believed in that system too when I was,~ um,~ um, working in it. But I think that doctors and nurses and people and healthcare also are ready to like see what else that we can bring in. It's not like we're saying you could still do chemo, you can still do all those other things, but why wouldn't we bring. other understandings [00:28:00] into the picture to help people trust their bodies and,~ um,~ feel like. There's nothing to be afraid of, but I know why. I don't think the doctors know why. I know why. It's because big pharma doesn't want people actually to recognize that they have the power and that they shouldn't be afraid.

They want people to be afraid, but I know that the doctors and nurses and the most people who are in medicine go in because they wanna help people and they wanna heal, that they're trapped in this system that doesn't allow people to see where the fear is really coming from.

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: yeah. Ultimately, yeah. Another way to look at what we're doing is just, it's about empowerment, right? It's about personal empowerment. Is that you, you have, you? No. You no longer have to. Give your power away to this authority, which is, you know, the medical system.~ Um, ~you can actually like, understand what's happening on a, on a much deeper level.

And, and that is so empowering. And this is what I [00:29:00] noticed, you know, that, that what happened with Amy, she was really able to step into her power and it manifests in so many other ways. It's not, not just the physical body, right? It's just, it's. It makes you a better person, right? It makes you more creative.

It makes you, you can take risks more as this relationship with your body changes, as this relationship with the fear changes. And so, and it's as simple as simply understanding how the body functions, how emotions function. It can be a tremendous thing because it's, it's at a foundation of, you know, our life, you know, our bodies and our emotions.

Everything is, is, is, is stems from there.

Dr. Katie Deming MD: Yeah, absolutely. Well, I am very grateful to both of you for developing the app and then finding your way to me so that I could try it, and I'm excited for people to find it. So tell people where they can find it. Well, we will drop a link in the show notes, but ~um, ~yeah, where can they find you?

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: Yeah, well ultimately we're on the. You know, major app stores, the Android and the iOS store. So you can search for, [00:30:00] it's kind of hard to find this,~ uh,~ at the moment, but if you search for something like Root, cause one word, emotion body, something, you could just type into search terms, you'll, you'll find it.

~Uh, ~there's also website Root Cause, dot, mi. Or ny, I'm sorry, root my, where both links are there.~ Um, ~and yeah,~ uh,~ in the next couple of weeks we're gonna roll out some amazing new features that we unfortunately couldn't roll out here. ~Uh, ~we didn't have time, but it is going to, it, the app is gonna be easily two, three times better.

It's gonna be really, really cool. And yeah, the, the, the hardest part about this, this app is actually getting into the app stores. That was like, that was actually. Probably half the work to, to get it there because they also don't want you to have it done there. ~Um, ~it's Apple especially. So yeah, by, by supporting us, I think you guys would be supporting this whole paradigm shift for the, for the whole system essentially.

Dr. Katie Deming MD: I love it. And the, the,~ um,~ [00:31:00] subscription is, it's like 99. For a year. Is that right?

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: It's 99 for a year. There's a, there's a, there's a bunch of free lookups

Dr. Katie Deming MD: Okay. Yeah. You get like five lookups

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: can, you can

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: try, you can see how you like it. And then, yeah, the next version also, there'll be a journal feature that, that comes included as well that will automatically, every weekly, it'll look at any sort of patterns emerging or anything that you might have missed,~ uh,~ and that sort of thing.

And yeah, if you have any comments, we're also just. Really, really interested to hear from you how we can make this better and hear your

Dr. Katie Deming MD: Okay. I love it. Well, I'm sure my audience is your people. So you guys try out this app and then you can,~ uh,~ send us, if you have feedback for Andre and Amy, we'll pass it on. So thank you so much for coming on the show. It was a pleasure to talk to both of

Andrey & Amy Derevyanko: you so much, Katie. It was so nice. Thank you,