Episode 129 | The Golden Ratio: The Healing Sound Pattern Behind Nature, Breath, and Stillness with Music Producer, Banah Winn

[00:00:00] Dr. Katie Deming: What if the key to healing your body wasn't another protocol, but a specific sound frequency? Welcome to The Born to Heal podcast. I'm Dr. Katie Deming, and today we have Banah Winn, creator of the Golden Ratio Frequency. He's here to reveal the golden ratio, the same pattern found in your DNA, your breath and the galaxies, and how it can recalibrate your nervous system and unlock your body's natural healing ability.

[00:00:27] Dr. Katie Deming: Welcome, Banah.

[00:00:28] Banah Winn: Thank you for having me. [00:00:30] That was really good. I should have you do my videos for me now. That was amazing.

[00:00:33] Dr. Katie Deming: I'm so happy to have you. And I wanted to start, like, let's just dive in. How do healing frequencies and sound impact the body and the emotional field?

[00:00:44] Banah Winn: there are two direct ways.

[00:00:47] Banah Winn: One is physically 'cause sound moves. Through our environment and physically moves and resonates our body. And the other, which is I think equally, if not more powerful, is through [00:01:00] our own attention. So where we place our intention, uh, we start to resonate with and when we place our attention on something long enough, not only does it change our emotional state, but our emotional state leads to our physiological state.

[00:01:12] Banah Winn: And then there's chemical changes that happen from this. This has all been studied by. A bunch of different people. you know, that's why like chronic stress leads to disease and generally people that are happy are, are healthier. and so, yeah, so when we [00:01:30] focus on aligned frequency, frequency that is coherent, I guess that would be the best way to put it.

[00:01:35] Banah Winn: Um, it allows both our nervous system and then all the things that are connected to our nervous system. A KR. Whole bodies and our health at least potentially to work in more harmonious ways, which means, you know, we usually equate harmonious to healthy, you know, and there's the whole idea about, you know, disease being dise,

[00:01:55] Dr. Katie Deming: Hmm.

[00:01:55] Banah Winn: basically being incoherence in the body.

[00:01:58] Banah Winn: So it affect those, those things in [00:02:00] those two ways.

[00:02:00] Dr. Katie Deming: Got it. So the music is, or the frequencies are bringing coherence into not only the physical body with the vibrations, but also coherence to the field as well.

[00:02:10] Banah Winn: Yeah, they basically act as like a, a template and a baseline for, what that can be. I mean, you think about our world, there's so much going on. Uh, there's a lot of chaos in the world, but there's also a lot of beauty in the world. It's a world of any and all things. And so.just, you know, take a look around and [00:02:30] like, you'll feel happy and sad and destroyed and wonderful and apathetic.

[00:02:35] Banah Winn: And it can be quite a crazy emotional journey. which is, you know, that alone, those swings can be very taxing. Uh, for anyone even, you know, prerequisite to some of the serious health conditions you're talking about is like. Again, coming back to stress, it's like just being a human is, is a, is a challenge.

[00:02:56] Banah Winn: so having something that you can, a lot of [00:03:00] people use meditation, like that's how I started my journey and like really what helped me a lot and what led me to creating these frequencies is my meditation practice led me to particular places on the planet that, that hold very special energy. Like I found myself, I lived in Sedona for a year.

[00:03:16] Banah Winn: I found myself constantly going to places like Mount Shasta, Kauai. So all these places that like undeniably, when you step into the environment, it, it holds something incredibly special. you know, I felt a, a sense of, [00:03:30] of both mental, emotional, but even like physical, like, like purging, like a big part of my journey was, was purging, you know, old emotions, old beliefs.

[00:03:41] Banah Winn: Uh,It was like generational purging. Like my grandparents on my dad's side were all Jewish and like Holocaust survivors. So I mean. As far as I understand, like it's possible for that stuff to be passed down through DNA. And so like that was a big part of my journey was just like healing [00:04:00] those, uh, even just like emotional memories.

[00:04:02] Banah Winn: Like I didn't have like physical memories, but like emotional memories within my body, um, that felt like they went beyond just like the stuff I've experienced in this lifetime. And that's what led me to creating these frequencies is like, I, I would get to a point where I could be in a place like Mount Shasta or Sedona and, and you would feel so.

[00:04:20] Banah Winn: Free and of perfect alignment, perfect health. unlike anything I've ever felt, you know, like living in a city, like it feels very different if you're in like New York or [00:04:30] la you know? Uh, and I wanted to be able to take that feeling with me. So that's why I originally created the, the golden Ratio, and it was kind of a new conceptOf sound healing that, or at least like a new angle that I've not seen anyone else do that basically takes harmonics based on the golden ratio all the way from low to high and creates a whole field of sound. And as an avid meditator, like the first time I turned it on and like listened to it and it, I had like a really [00:05:00] profound experience and I kept using 'em after that and they basically kept me sane while I was, you know, living in like a very challenging environment for many months.

[00:05:09] Banah Winn: And then. Fast forward like about six months after just using them privately. I decided to share them online and they went like crazy viral and like in like four months got like half a billion views of, so it just like there's, it's very clearly something that is like very universal and that we all resonate with and I, I believe that [00:05:30] the reason that they're so healing and so powerful is because.

[00:05:34] Banah Winn: It's, it's essentially sound and frequency, but using like the mathematical formula, like you said, that like already exists, like it's like the baseline for coherence. So if we can just like get back to that and focus on that, then like it's just a lot easier to explore life from an aligned place as opposed to, you know, a state of constant disorder, which I think a lot of us are living in.

[00:05:57] Banah Winn: I love it. Well, and I think the world, like you said, talk [00:06:00] about disorder. We've got just, the world is so chaotic at the moment, and I wonder if you can speak to specifically the golden ratio, because that is with your frequencies. The frequencies that, that I have used from you. It is the Golden RA or the, yeah, the Golden Frequency Ratios.

[00:06:18] Dr. Katie Deming: Can you talk about that? Like what is the golden ratio and how, how, how does that tie into, you know, bringing us back into coherence?

[00:06:27] Banah Winn: like you said in the beginning, the golden [00:06:30] ratio is it's found everywhere within ourselves, within nature itself. I mean, it's amazing to me that, that from like the biggest things we can see or find in reality like galaxies, it's, it's literally found in the, the formation of how spiral galaxies are formed.

[00:06:47] Banah Winn: You know, when waves crest everywhere around the world, it's to the golden ratio. It's like, it's basically how nature replicates itself, and how nature is manifested [00:07:00] for, you know, lack of a more. Pragmatic word. so finding this everywhere, you know, from the biggest, big to the small, small and everything in between.

[00:07:08] Banah Winn: And, and you know, I mean, kind of a segue, like I, I'm an artist at heart and so like. A lot of the great slash most of the great artists are using the golden ratio, like in composition and artwork and stuff like that, because like we're we're, um, we're like preconditioned to like look at it and be like, ah, perfect.

[00:07:27] Banah Winn: Like even when we see it, we're like, [00:07:30] yes. this is coherence. This makes sense to me. And the fact that it, it's spoiled down to an actual mathematical formula. A a mathematical proportion basically between two points. So, bringing that into sound itself, I don't think I've seen anyone quite do this, do it this way.

[00:07:48] Banah Winn: And, and the reason I believe what I made has been so effective for me, and also both like resonated with so many people. And also just like reading in our school community, like, it's crazy. [00:08:00] Like the stuff people write in there, like the transformations people have and like, and just like the. All the different effects.

[00:08:06] Banah Winn: It's like positive effects. It's having for different people that I never, you know, would've dreamed that like people would be writing this stuff. I believe that is because like, these frequencies are, are like the, the concept or the frequency concept that I created is a little bit different because most frequency healing is either music, which is like, it is pretty and it's nice to listen to.

[00:08:27] Banah Winn: But it's not like a set of [00:08:30] steady frequencies. It's not a set, it says set of steady frequencies. It's like meandering. So there's like a lot of high and then there's like low, and then it goes in between and it changes. So it's also like life where it's like constantly changing, changing, changing, which you know, that's what we're used to as humans.

[00:08:44] Banah Winn: but it's it, but it doesn't have that like steady, like solid template to it, which is justwhich is basically the effect you would get outta meditation, you know, when you become. More advanced at meditation. Uh, the reason it's so effective is because you, you learn how to [00:09:00] focus in a prolonged way.

[00:09:01] Banah Winn: And by doing that, like prolonged focus in one direction is, is like actually how you change things physically in reality, you know, reality is, is, Reality is like built on momentum based principles, which is why, like, you can look at this like anywhere in the world, like the people who are the most successful, they f they hyper focus on one thing.

[00:09:20] Banah Winn: They obsess about it, and they wake up every day and they get better at it over and over and over and over and over and over and over again versus like. It's not worse, but it's just a very [00:09:30] different intention. Those who are going from one thing to another, another explorers like way less likely that they achieve something like from a grand skill.

[00:09:37] Banah Winn: So the momentum is just not as great. so the same thing happens with frequency. When it's like constantly changing and shifting, then the effect is not as great. And then there's another thing too, which is like most of the frequencies that you hear online that are steady, like some people do pure tone or with sound healing, like it's just one.

[00:09:56] Banah Winn: It's just one, which is fine. But, why do I wanna say this [00:10:00] Newsflash. yeah. Life is not one frequency. Like if it was one frequency, there would only be one existence. There wouldn't even be one being, you know, it's, uh. If we're talking about one frequency, then that's sort of like universal consciousness, but we have sort of fractualize and changed until all these different derivatives of, of like.

[00:10:21] Banah Winn: Oneness. You know, it's like I'm having a conversation with you, you're having a conversation with me. Like there's also different parts of you as a human. There's different aspects of you as [00:10:30] you as a human. Like even like after you have this conversation, you'll go on, do something else in your life and like your personality will like slightly change and adhere to that.

[00:10:38] Banah Winn: So I realized that like everything in this life, in this reality is about harmony, which basically means like everything in this life is about relationships. It's how we relate to, to everything. How we relate to ourselves, how we relate to money, how we relate to, in the main topic of this health, like we are of, uh, essentially a [00:11:00] point of consciousness.

[00:11:01] Banah Winn: I'm going here. we are essentially a point of consciousness, having an experience, you know, having an experience as a human. And everything that's happening is, is in relationship to us. So, um, in music. Like, you know, there's Melody, which is just one note, but then there's Harmony, which is like multiple notes that are harmonizing between each other.

[00:11:20] Banah Winn: And Harmony is where relationship is. And so basically what I built is, is a template for aligned relationship aligned harmony [00:11:30] based on the golden ratio. So based on the fundamental math of how nature itself, when. Unobstructed and you know, non manipulated, just naturally replicates and creates. So

[00:11:45] Dr. Katie Deming: and just, no, I mean, well, you don't know this about me, but we're definitely, this is, we go there with, all the things that I teach. So talking about emotions, talking about consciousness, all of these things, because we are. You know, um, conscious beings [00:12:00] having a human experience, right? So we're having this human experience, but we are so much more than that.

[00:12:05] Dr. Katie Deming: And you know, for me, what's interesting is I came into your contact with your frequencies. I think I probably saw you on Instagram or something, and I was like, oh, these are so interesting, especially given the work that I do and understanding that. Sound is the foundation of all creation, right? So sound is the foundation of creation, right?

[00:12:27] Dr. Katie Deming: In the beginning there was word, and [00:12:30] it's using frequencies are so powerful and in healing, you know, there, there's data actually showing that you can make cancer cells. Basically explode using two frequencies at the same time with a, uh, with exposing the cells to that. And so I knew that there was something powerful with sound, but I hadn't really used it in my own practice yet.

[00:12:51] Dr. Katie Deming: And so I meditated with your, I think it was the 4 32. And on yours, when they're pure tone, they're harmonized. Right? So [00:13:00] it's because it's a golden frequency. It's not just straight 4 32, but

[00:13:03] Banah Winn: Yeah, I think that one has 13, so it's like 4 32, and then it goes as high as I can go and as low as I can go.

[00:13:09] Dr. Katie Deming: so I am an experienced meditator, but the first time I sat with your tones, I literally was like, what just happened? I just completely lost myself and was just opened into the void. Something that can take me. You know, a good 20 minutes to get into when I'm lucky. I was like, within like 30 seconds of this, I could [00:13:30] feel my vagus nerve activating.

[00:13:32] Dr. Katie Deming: I could feel just everything opening up and I was like, what the heck is going on in these frequencies? So they're really powerful for the listeners, and we'll provide a link so that you guys can, follow bon's work and also, download these frequencies. It's really, really powerful. So then I said, well, gosh, I was just interested in it, you know, to learn about it a little bit and try it myself.

[00:13:56] Dr. Katie Deming: But then I was like, okay, well let me have some of my fasts use [00:14:00] this. And they also are, you know, many of these people are fasting anywhere from 14 days to 30 days and getting really quiet in themselves and the frequencies just totally amplified everything that was happening for

[00:14:13] Dr. Katie Deming: them.

[00:14:13] Banah Winn: see that.

[00:14:14] Dr. Katie Deming: Yeah, so it's, it's been really interesting and, and that's why I wanted to bring you on the show so that I could share with my listeners the stuff that we're seeing, you know, just within my community of my fasters using this.

[00:14:25] Dr. Katie Deming: But I really see this as a powerful tool for healing [00:14:30] because just with using it for, like I said, I had it on for like 30 seconds and I was like, I can feel this. I feel what's happening in my body when I start listening.

[00:14:39] Banah Winn: It's interesting you talk about combining it with fasting. 'cause like fasting, you're essentially trying to like take things away, but like pretty much everything. Most everything we do in life is like an input, you know, where like it's like food input or it's like a, even just like an emotional input or an intention input.

[00:14:54] Banah Winn: And like to me, like when you said that, I'm like, yeah, these are pretty much like the cleanest input you can [00:15:00] get. And that's why you like had the experience with meditation, which is like the input is like you're putting 'em on and now your intention are is on 'em. And also like if you're listening on speakers, they're, your body is resonating with it.

[00:15:12] Banah Winn: So suddenly it's like. It's just that, it's like the cleanest thing that you can essentially bring into your, your being, if that makes sense to digest, I guess, in an auditory way. So, yeah.

[00:15:24] Dr. Katie Deming: Yeah, well, I haven't even listened with speakers, but you know what's interesting is I can't listen to the [00:15:30] pure tones because it takes me so deep, so fast that I have to be careful that if I do the pure tones, I have to really have the space for it and just be like, okay, I'm going deep. and so, you know, I'm really sensitive to these frequencies and it is, it's, it's really profound.

[00:15:47] Dr. Katie Deming: And, and they do feel. So clean, like just simple. And that there's, you know. I don't know how to describe it other than that, that for me, I felt it immediately when I was tuning into them [00:16:00] and then having my fasts use them. you know, like you said, fasting is removing all the inputs that we really are clearing everything out because we have them, they're not eating, so, but they're also not on social media.

[00:16:13] Dr. Katie Deming: They're, you know, limited screen time and they're not going anywhere. They're staying in their house. So it's really like a vision quest that they're having. And what we found is these, the frequencies have just been a helpful tool to deepen that internal introspection that's happening. You [00:16:30] know, a lot of people come to me because they think fasting is, you know, you're basically creating autophagy where the body can start to eat disease tissue.

[00:16:37] Dr. Katie Deming: But really what's happening is we're helping people go inside, you know, clear out all the noise, get rid of all the toxins in their body, and so. Yeah, it's been really fascinating to use it within my own practice and I'm, I'm wondering for you, like, what are the things that you see as people are using these frequencies?

[00:16:57] Dr. Katie Deming: And maybe not just related to health, but like, what are the benefits? [00:17:00] 'cause I have a lot of people on here who don't have cancer, but they're looking to, you know, improve their overall wellbeing in all the ways.

[00:17:09] Banah Winn: Yeah. I would say like the, sort of the general trend is it depends on how sensitive people are right away. So I think people like me and you, like right away, we have a very deep experience. and just across the board, the general trend is like at a, an emotional and [00:17:30] like mental. Alignment and clearing.

[00:17:33] Banah Winn: So we find that people, yeah, the, the, the changes usually start out like emotion, emotional first, and then mental, emotional, mental first. And then over time will, you know, the momentum builds and then other things will happen. So, it's been a lot of people just saying like. They feel more calm, they're less irritable.

[00:17:56] Banah Winn: Like even when bad things happen, they handled it completely different. [00:18:00] and then we've had everything from like, yeah, people expressing like physical things happening. we've had people, you know, manifestation things happen. it also depends on what frequency people are listening to.

[00:18:13] Banah Winn: Somebody talked about like. Like literally, they had like a, a junk food, a addiction, and they were like, they put a video up in the school group of them, like in Walmart, like, like, I don't wanna buy this stuff anymore. And she was like crying. And I was like, I never would [00:18:30] expect that these would've done that.

[00:18:30] Banah Winn: But it does make sense logically that like when we change our resonance within then, and I went through that process 'cause I was very into yoga. Where I went from like eating junk food to like then suddenly craving, things that, you know, were much more like holistic and healthy. you know, as your body's resonance changes, so do your cravings and all that.

[00:18:51] Banah Winn: people have had the courage to like completely change their lives, like in ways that they really wanted, wanted to. Somebody wrote that he, he had been like stuck at a dead end job for like three [00:19:00] years and afraid to leave his country and, and had this dream of, of flying to like a tropical land.

[00:19:06] Banah Winn: And he posted in the group that he just did it and like was super happy now. And I was like, that's very like, uh, near and dear to my heart. 'cause that's like a big part of sort of my own story, having the courage to, to pave my own path and

[00:19:21] Dr. Katie Deming: I love

[00:19:21] Banah Winn: I want to be so.

[00:19:22] Dr. Katie Deming: Well, and that's, we talk about that a lot on this show because everything. It comes from [00:19:30] authenticity, right? From us living our own truth and and forging our own path, whatever that looks like. So really what's happening with these frequencies is it's bringing people into coherence. It's shifting them.

[00:19:44] Dr. Katie Deming: They can hear, they can feel like, I could feel it on an emotional and mental level, like immediately, but what you're noticing is if people use these regularly and what does that look? Like when you say regularly, like what is, when someone's using this, how would you recommend people to use the [00:20:00] frequencies?

[00:20:00] Banah Winn: as we've grown, like people, a lot of people ask me this question, I suggest like at least 10 minutes a day. But it's also like, depends on the person, you know? 'cause we have people like yourself who are avid meditators and like, you can go straight to the pure tones and be like, wow.

[00:20:16] Banah Winn: And there's other people who just wanna listen to music and kind of build their way up. For me, like, I'm a firm believer in the pure tones. We have a few other different formations in there that people use that are also super effective as well. Personally, [00:20:30] I just use the pure tones because it's like basically a solid template and it's like, that's what I made first and that's what's always worked for me.

[00:20:36] Banah Winn: so my suggestion to people is at least 10 minutes a day because I know that, like when I meditate with them, at my most efficient like 10 minutes is like, I, I actually will feel like a mental and emotional and like energetic. Shift within myself, and then I like, observe and like watch my life and like the coming day and like I do notice differences from that.

[00:20:56] Banah Winn: And how did you. Come upon this with the golden [00:21:00] frequency. So obviously you're a musician, your background in that space. What brought you to this particular with the golden, uh.

[00:21:08] Banah Winn: It was just like one of those moments I think I was like just poking around online and then I got the idea and, and then I kind of looked it up and I was like, I was like trying to listen to like see if anyone else was doing like what I thought and I was like, nobody's doing this. And then I was like, lemme just make 'em myself. 'cause I'm, that's, I'm a music producer. So then I made them and like, and like I [00:21:30] said, like I've, I popped 'em on the first time and like I had this very similar experience that you had. And I was like, no way. This is like actually. And then I like used them a few more times and then I was like, whoa, okay.

[00:21:41] Banah Winn: I think I'm like actually onto something. And then I started to share 'em with friends privately. And I would literally, like, I'm also very energetically sensitive. I used to do, I was a reader in Sedona and a Vortex tour guide for a year. I worked at like the top psychic center in the country. so I'm like highly energetically sensitive.

[00:21:58] Banah Winn: One of my gifts is like, I'm [00:22:00] like a hyper empath. So I can like, I can feel like if I like tune into someone, I can feel like everything they're feeling and like specifically like where they're feeling it in their body and like. Exactly where their like energetic pathways are blocked and open. So like when I'd like play 'em for people, I'd be like, oh, this is awesome.

[00:22:14] Dr. Katie Deming: I don't have to do the he the energy healing anymore. I just like, put this on and then it just does it. which was like always my dream, to make something easy, that people could just put on The ultimate way of scaling yourself.

[00:22:26] Banah Winn: that was, that was my goal. Yeah. Literally that's what I manifested

[00:22:29] Dr. Katie Deming: [00:22:30] I love it. Well, and I love that you, you know, you were exploring and then really what's, what's brought this out into the world is that you were like, okay, this works. And so you then you sharing it and then it's just, it grown since then. Um, as in this organic way, which is, which is so beautiful and it's interesting that, you know.

[00:22:47] Dr. Katie Deming: We've, like I said this before we hopped on the recording that you and I have kind of followed each other. It's funny that Sedona, I spend a lot of time in Sedona. I'm there probably every other month. And then, you know, I was raised in [00:23:00] Marin County, which is just in San Francisco, you know, outside of San Francisco that you've been in San Santa Barbara, but.

[00:23:05] Dr. Katie Deming: when you mentioned about the power spots on the planet and how they hold specific frequencies, and actually I think I saw a video of you recently at Halala, the heart chakra.

[00:23:16] Banah Winn: my God, that place was amazing.

[00:23:17] Dr. Katie Deming: Yeah.

[00:23:19] Dr. Katie Deming: So, um, you know, I think that people often think they have to go somewhere to like go to the vortexes in Sedona or go to Lake Shasta [00:23:30] to experience these frequencies, which you can, there are definitely places on the planet that are so powerful, but to have something like this that you can take with you

[00:23:40] Dr. Katie Deming: that can allow you to.

[00:23:41] Dr. Katie Deming: Tap. Yeah. And what, what, I know that you have 4 32 and then 5 28. Those are the two pure tone that I've experienced. Is that right? Is 5 28 the other one?

[00:23:51] Banah Winn: Yes. And then I also have a, like a, another called the ma master bundle, which has all of 'em. So I, it has, 3 [00:24:00] 9 6 4 17. It has 4 32, 5 28, 6 3 9. So it's basically going up. So root sacral, solar plexes heart. 7 41, 8 52 9 6 3. And then I did 8, 8 8 like for abundance 'cause people like that. So

[00:24:17] Dr. Katie Deming: Yeah. Okay. I need the master bundle then too. I guess I need to find that one. I love it. So,What is your vision of like, how these, you know, for now that you've seen the, the changes these these are making in [00:24:30] people's lives? What is your vision and and goal for these ratios? The frequencies

[00:24:34] Banah Winn: I think just carry, keep sharing them with as many people that are aligned as possible. it's kind of interesting because like to me, the pure tones, which I've already created. Are like the, the creme de la creme, like they're as strong as it gets. so in the future, you know, we've gotten a lot of requests for like more music based ones, which is amazing, uh, because I'm a musician, so I like making music.

[00:24:57] Banah Winn: Uh, so this winter I actually did record, [00:25:00] an album of, musical sleep tracks, which is the first time I ever like, it was a very cool process 'cause I took the actual golden ratio frequencies and then. I like mathematically made sure that everything I, I like composed and played was like in relative tuning to it.

[00:25:17] Banah Winn: So basically like fits in the geometry of that. So I'm about to release an album of. I think it's eight. Yeah, eight songs, eight sleep tracks where the whole, the whole music is basically like tuned inside of the golden ratio frequency. So it [00:25:30] just sounds like music. but it's like, it's like holding the exact web and frame.

[00:25:35] Banah Winn: and then there's a few other iterations too. Like I am gonna come out with one that doesn't have any of the high pitch tones, so like a, for people that have more sensitive ears. And then we're gonna have some more of the. I'd have to look at all the frequencies you have in there, but it still has like the harmonics, but they don't go above like a certain frequency, so they sound much more mellow.

[00:25:54] Banah Winn: And then I'm also doing one with like nature sounds too, 'cause people requested that. But my grand vision with this whole [00:26:00] thing is to be honest, like this all started, Like my group was called Harmony, and this all started over around a concert series that I was doing. So I was already doing sound healing.

[00:26:09] Banah Winn: Um, and I was always already doing group, basically group energy healing and frequency raising events, through music. And, and my main medium through that was like playing guitar and singing. So I play guitar and I have like affirmation based songs and it's a really magical experience where. The group of people gets [00:26:30] together and the only, the only set format is at the beginning I have everyone like sit down and close their eyes and just meditate for a second and like set their intention.

[00:26:40] Banah Winn: And like, I ask them like, how do they wanna feel? Like imagine yourself, like, you know, walking to your car, walking home after this event being like, wow, I feel so this was so blah, blah, blah. and then you have a collective room of people all doing that. And then. I can feel it in the room. And then sort of like the [00:27:00] channel comes through based on like their intentions.

[00:27:02] Banah Winn: And it's like my favorite moment of kind of in life because I'm like leading a large group of people and I have no idea what's gonna happen next. And I'm like, okay, let's get started. And then there's this like five second pause and then it just comes through and like we're singing, we're dancing, we're meditating, we're healing.

[00:27:17] Banah Winn: and it's this really profound like just heart connected like. Event where like people feel very free and open, authentic and like talk about like clean [00:27:30] energy. It's like, it, it really, you have to honor the room because like if something's funky in the room and then you're trying to like, you know, pretend like it's not there, like it's, it needs to be like healed and addressed and undressed and, at their best it's, it's, people walk out feeling the same way.

[00:27:48] Banah Winn: They do after listening to the golden ratio frequencies. So that, that's what this was all created around. and my, my plan and what I'm working towards now is, having the golden ratio frequencies [00:28:00] online be sort of the, the pillar moving forward and growing harmony my group into a comprehensive.

[00:28:08] Banah Winn: Online transformational platform, which is like not attached to any lineage or dogma or anything, or religion or anything like that. Just a platform that like helps people, and is like shares, you know, people that I meet that, that are pure and good hearted and want to help people and, and have different modalities and methods [00:28:30] that are incredibly valuable to them.

[00:28:32] Banah Winn: Then also like on the flip side, where maybe someday potentially I can go back to just singing and playing guitar and doing that full time. 'cause that's like my actual plan. So, um, I'm just a big kid and I like wanna play with as many people as possible. So that's like, like in the back of my mind I'm like, I'm like serving and I'm giving people like what they want and they what they need.

[00:28:52] Banah Winn: So that, so that at a certain point in my life, like that can be my point of service is to just be silly with people.

[00:28:59] Dr. Katie Deming: Well, and I love that you [00:29:00] brought up your group and, 'cause I know, you know, you talk about group singing and the power of that, of, of doing that as a collective. Can you talk a little bit about that? Like what is the power there?

[00:29:11] Banah Winn: Yeah, I think it's really similar to what we're talking about. The frequencies is, is like it's, it's combined resonance, you know? Combined resonance, both in physically like echoing within a room within all of our bodies, and also attention wise, especially when you get a lot of people [00:29:30] together all focusing in the same direction.

[00:29:32] Banah Winn: and especially in this context when it's like in 11 direction, like without like any specific agenda, uh, that's, that's really important. it's super powerful. One, it feels really good.and two, the effects from it that you get to take away are, I mean, think about any collective experience, like, it's like, why do people go to sporting events?

[00:29:54] Banah Winn: Or like, why do people go to concerts? was actually having a conversation with someone the other day about, they've done like, I wouldn't say studies, but they've [00:30:00] noticed that, when there are like mass consciousness events. It actually creates like such a strong field of coherence that, um, have you heard of that?

[00:30:09] Banah Winn: Like, there's like this, uh, I dunno how to describe it, like a computer system or something like that. It's like a, this like random number generator that just keeps, so it's basically supposed to be completely random and then on certain points, uh, where like there's enough people all focusing in the same direction.

[00:30:24] Banah Winn: It creates such like a massive field of coherence that it actually disrupts the [00:30:30] randomness of it. Um, and then it becomes coherent for a moment. So it just, it just speaks to like our collective power. And I know throughout history, like that's been used in so many different ways. And like, I think my mission is to not necessarily use that, but like, use isn't the right word, but to like utilize that ability in which to, to, you know, allow or create.

[00:30:55] Banah Winn: Scenarios or, or you know, containers where, [00:31:00] where people voluntarily like want to all focus together on one thing. And, and to me it's like the one thing we can all agree on, like no matter who you are and where you are, is like, at least, you know, I think at least 99% of us is like, we wanna feel good, we wanna feel loved.

[00:31:17] Banah Winn: Like, we wanna be happy. yeah, like love is love, like true. Like I'm talking like true love, like beyond romantic love, like the

[00:31:23] Dr. Katie Deming: Yeah.

[00:31:24] Banah Winn: and that, and like at the best point in my events, like I'll look around the room and like you just feel [00:31:30] completely in love with everyone, but like, you don't have to do anything about it.

[00:31:33] Banah Winn: It just is. so yeah, I'm just trying to provide as much of a space, um, where people can do that. And as far as like the effects people take away from that, it's I think it's, I think it's amazing and I truly hope that like this combination of both events and then something that people can like play and take home with them allows people to not only get like a, a bump of that like in person and like, 'cause like when you do an event, it's like such a high [00:32:00] because, and you've experienced that, you know, it's like you feel it for like a few days and then you like go back to your baseline.

[00:32:05] Banah Winn: But my mission with this is like to provide the events and then be like, you don't ever have to go back to baseline. You can just stay at least relatively in coherence forever. 'cause here's a tool you can use even when you know the event is not around kind of thing. So,

[00:32:20] Dr. Katie Deming: Yeah, no, it's beautiful. And what, you know, really what you're saying there is harnessing the power. Of the collective [00:32:30] consciousness and shifting that, that if you have people all focused on, you know, who we are at our core, which is love and unity, that it has a powerful effect. And it always makes me think of the hundred Monkey Study.

[00:32:44] Dr. Katie Deming: Have you ever heard of that? The hundred Monkey Effect. I forget what the fruit was, but there was, you know, islands that were kind of a hundred miles away. Like they would have one island, then there would be another mile island that was, you know, several, hun or like a hundred miles away, let's just [00:33:00] say.

[00:33:00] Dr. Katie Deming: And there were multiple islands that were in this area and there were the same kind of monkeys. Islands. And on one of the islands, the monkeys learned there was a fruit. I forget what it was exactly, but that they couldn't eat it. And it was actually on all the islands. And the monkeys couldn't eat it because I forget, it was covered by sand or something that was covered by, and the monkeys were actually having trouble surviving.

[00:33:22] Dr. Katie Deming: And on one of the islands, one of the monkeys figured out how to wash. These fruits [00:33:30] and to be able to eat it. And so then of course the other monkeys saw this monkey doing it. And so they learned on this one island. And then after there was a certain number, it reached a certain critical mass. What they found was that the monkeys on these neighboring islands that were too far, that these monkeys weren't swimming between islands.

[00:33:49] Dr. Katie Deming: The other monkeys started doing the same thing, and the idea is, is that consciousness is non-local. It's, there's a field. When you get a critical mass [00:34:00] like you're describing with an event where people are collectively singing and putting their consciousness in a specific direction that influences the field, that has a much bigger effect than just ourselves.

[00:34:10] Dr. Katie Deming: You know, and this is why actually, you know, all the work that we do internally is so important for the planet right now because we impact the collective consciousness, each one of us, and then when we can join together and put our. You know, direct our intentions in a way that's toward love, toward unity, toward, [00:34:30] unity consciousness.

[00:34:31] Dr. Katie Deming: This has a powerful impact on the planet, so I love that. It's

[00:34:35] Dr. Katie Deming: beautiful.

[00:34:35] Banah Winn: And, and I wanna add too that like, I believe that it's enough just to be in that state and sh and show people that state, and it's, it's not necessarily a necessity to try and like do something with it because like when we. Are able to experience that each one of us as individuals, will receive, you know, our own set of inspiration.[00:35:00]

[00:35:00] Banah Winn: And so like I feel like it's my path to, create things and hold space that allow people to tap into that and then like have full trust that that state of being in the inspiration that comes from it is, is truly like the greatest good for all. And like whatever that looks like for. Sally and Joe and you know, all the, whoever it is, like that's like beautiful.

[00:35:22] Banah Winn: So

[00:35:23] Dr. Katie Deming: Yeah. Well, that's the beauty about when you express yourself as your [00:35:30] authentic self that has a ripple effect, that you can't even predict what it is and, and how beautiful it is that you're using your frequencies to and your music to create that in the world. So thank you so much, Bonna, for being with us today.

[00:35:44] Dr. Katie Deming: If people would like to find you, we'll go ahead and link, to your frequency so people can check those out. But where can they find you?

[00:35:51] Banah Winn: on ins on Instagram,

[00:35:53] Dr. Katie Deming: Yeah,

[00:35:54] Banah Winn: I wanna say YouTube. I want more people to follow me on YouTube.

[00:35:56] Dr. Katie Deming: Okay, perfect. We'll link your YouTube account then.

[00:35:59] Banah Winn: Okay.

[00:35:59] Dr. Katie Deming: [00:36:00] Thank you so much for being with us today.

[00:36:01] Banah Winn: Thank you for having me.